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Though there are plenty of small cars which get the same level of treatment and they don't have problems with head gaskets.... I have never owned a car that needed a thermostat replacement.

It's still an inherent vulnerability in the fire engine
I'm merely pointing out its not the fault of the head gaskets themselves. It's totally an issue but it's usually failures in the cooling system that makes them blow. And usually a thermostat or rad fan switch. And yes them items fail more than in most cars but that's the key point I was making. Drive any car around that's too hot and you will blow a head gasket.
Referring to abuse the cars get, I meant that if my car got too hot I would stop but lots of people just carry on, then they say the engines crap when it pops which is not really fair.
Further exasperating this issue is that so many people when they have issue use the cheapest gaskets they can find, the cheapest pattern parts and don't skim the head after driving it miles and miles with a blown HG. So it's not a huge surprise when it doesn't last.
So my point stands. The head gasket itself isn't poor if it's a genuine one. Other parts are weak that result in over heating and owners who don't know enough or just don't care then make it worse.
Not something I've ever really had much issue with myself and I've had alot of fire engines. Mostly fixing other people's bodged. One of my cars I suspected had a blown gasket and when I took it apart it had been dismantled and put back with all the same gaskets just smeared in red hylomar lol. Lasted longer than you would expect though.
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I'm merely pointing out its not the fault of the head gaskets themselves. It's totally an issue but it's usually failures in the cooling system that makes them blow. And usually a thermostat or rad fan switch. And yes them items fail more than in most cars but that's the key point I was making. Drive any car around that's too hot and you will blow a head gasket.
Referring to abuse the cars get, I meant that if my car got too hot I would stop but lots of people just carry on, then they say the engines crap when it pops which is not really fair.
Further exasperating this issue is that so many people when they have issue use the cheapest gaskets they can find, the cheapest pattern parts and don't skim the head after driving it miles and miles with a blown HG. So it's not a huge surprise when it doesn't last.
So my point stands. The head gasket itself isn't poor if it's a genuine one. Other parts are weak that result in over heating and owners who don't know enough or just don't care then make it worse.
Not something I've ever really had much issue with myself and I've had alot of fire engines. Mostly fixing other people's bodged. One of my cars I suspected had a blown gasket and when I took it apart it had been dismantled and put back with all the same gaskets just smeared in red hylomar lol. Lasted longer than you would expect though.
they used same head gasket?
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Yes lol... red hylomar on both sides really thick and then I presume over torqued the head bolts. It did actually last a good while. It was running ok still but was when I did 16v swap. It occasionally had some weird running issues but was mostly ok. I only split the engine out of curiosity really.
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Yes lol... red hylomar on both sides really thick and then I presume over torqued the head bolts. It did actually last a good while. It was running ok still but was when I did 16v swap. It occasionally had some weird running issues but was mostly ok. I only split the engine out of curiosity really.
so another myth busted about reusing head gaskets?
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lol... erm lets just say its amazing it lasted as long as it did but lets not go recommending it. Try to remember that a new head gasket, even a genuine fiat one, prob costs about the same as a large tube of quality instant gasket.
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fiat gasket is expensive compared to gasket sealant, and you need to do it in a hurry on a sunday morning and all you got is a tube of sealant
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if you are in that much of a hurry do you really have time to take your head off your car....? no, this is never ever ever a suggestion to anyone. Just buy a gasket and get a taxi, train or bus that day.
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what if it is an emergency
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i refer to my previous statement... if its an emergency then clearly there is not time to be taking the head off your car.

By all means fella, if you want to try it then you go ahead but i would never in a million years suggest it. If its an emergency bloody hire a car, its only like 30 a day to hire a car.

In an emergency would you really want to drive your bodged repaired car that could break down any moment??
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