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Old 07-12-2012   #91
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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

My cam cover arrived, it is fantastic! This is a scrap yard part cleaned up and powdercoated in crinkle/wrinkle red.













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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

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Got a Optima Red Top Battery for the car, fitted that today.
Comes with a cover for delivery

Without

Handle can be removed at two strips of plastic on the left and right of the base can be removed too.

I bought the reversed model because the terminals match the original layout. It weighs 15kg
Great looking car ade, just a question on the red top battery, are the more powerful than a standard battery? And if you don't mind me asking, how much do these typically cost? I ask cost I think the winter is taking its toll on my battery and despite giving it plenty of charge over a weekend it still seems slow to turn over so I think a new on will be in order soon
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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

Hello Gadge, thank you

The Optima redtop cost me 145 delivered, its the best battery ive owned and it's made a noticable improvement to starting.

I wanted to try one for the main reasons of; quality, its maintainance free, it claims to have the lowest internal resistance of any battery so that means it will re-charge faster and delivery power faster, and its supposed to hold its charge for a long time.

It weighs 15kg, took me a while to find the one with the right terminal configuration. I needed the one with 'reversed' terminals just means the positive and negative are on oposit ends than what seems to be the standard American style, and i needed the terminals close to the edge of the battery because my positive over hangs in an L shape down the end of the battery.

I mentioned it had a delivery cover in that post you quoted it turns out you can put that underneath the battery to raise it up if you need more height on it. There are two pieces so that gives 3 more possible height combinations. I would buy another in the future.

Heres a link for info;
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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

Today I refitted the rubber bungs into the coil pack cover and siliconed the new oil breather plate on.

Heres the rubber bungs and a metal collars that go into the coil pack cover, both are available to buy new seperatly;


I wasnt looking forward to pushing these rubber bungs back in since it was hard to take them out without having to worrying about scratching off powdercoat. I heated them up in hot water since that might make them termorarily softer and carefully pushed them in. I managed it without scratching anything phew. I have some cap head stainless steel bolts for the coil pack cover, I would have prefered ribe heads but cant find them in stainless steel.

Right one is the rubber on its own, left one includes the metal collar;




Next I siliconed the new oil breather cover in. ePer lists a gasket for this but when I tried to order the stock had been expired. On the scrap yard cover I bought this was siliconed in anyway (pics in earlier post) so I suspect Fiat just decided to silicone it in.

I bought a Loctite silicone that specificaly states "For Flanges with permanent oil contact" I also used an oil resistant threadlock on the three bolts that sit inside the cam cover. I dont want the slightest chance of them dropping out into the camshaft.



I want to give the silicone and thread lock plenty of time to go off before I fit the cam cover.

Oh yeah the cleaning, degassing, and powdercoating cost 75. The machined lettering cost 20 extra.

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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

That's awesome. Might do the coupe's if I ever get bothered about how it looks lol.
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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

Fitted the new powdercoated rocker cover today It took me from 11:00 -16:00 with a small lunch break. I really do take my time :P

When I took the original rocker cover of I was blown away by how clean the underside is.

This part has done 51500 miles, it is 17 years old. I only run my car on Shell Vpower and I change the oil for Selenia 20k every year or 10,000 miles.


Also the oil breather plate is siliconed in just like the mk2 part was.

Compare that to the scrap yard part thats done 73k on a 2001 plate Bravo;


Heres my camshafts and cylinder head;


I had my cambelt, waterpump, all pullies changed about 3 months ago at Fiat in Rochdale, I was very happy with thier work. The car came back in the same condition I left it in. Nothing was broken or damaged. I had really hoped to do the belt myself because its hard to find people who will do a consciousness job but I just was not finding the time to get it done. The car has been a lot smother since the belt change and I find it frightning that the previous belt or job must have been ever so slightly out.

I took my time cleaning every electrical contact with contact cleaner.

I noticed the metal stoppers i mentioned previously where on upsidown. The flat washer side should be on the underneath so i changed that it made more sense to have the flat washer end underneath rather than the thiner point end in my mind.


My new rocker cover has only one difference i can see compared with the mk1 original. On the mk1 the wiring harness is held in clips that screw into the aluminium cover, on the mk2 as you can see here the harness just sits in four U shaped notches. I assume the mk2 is simpler to save on manufacturing costs since thats two less holes that need to be drilled and tapped plus it reduces the chance of making a scrap part by messing either operation up;


I fitted all new gaskets, including the gaskets that go on the oil breather take off. Nicely on this cover the oil cap sits with 'Fiat' written the correct way up.


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And a final picture, sorry the flash messes up on the shiny bits;


I was thinking about buying an aluminium oil cap, but after seeing the black one on it needs to be black to look good.

If i do this again I would buy taps to run through every thread before and after powdercoating. What I did was run bolts through before to check the threads where ok, then decided I needed to buy taps after coating to make sure they where 100% clean and chrisp. It turned out the eight holes that take the coil packs where threaded inconsistantly on depth during the parts original manufacturing. There are just M5 and M6 corse holes on the rocker cover.

Im very happy next I have got a new bracket that goes ontop of the drivers strut tower i want to get powdercoated and I want to get my spare set of original wheels done next year. Its pesky insurance tax and MOT time soon though.

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Very thorough job there adrian....the results speak for themselves.
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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

Nothing exciting just a little detail, but it is the details that count

In the last few engine bay pictures some of you may have noticed a small amount slack in my battery strap. Well now that I am confident I am keeping the battery I took the chance between snow storms to make it 100%.

I could see two good solutions; 1. Unpick the stiching in the strap and sew it up tighter or 2. Cut it off and fit a small adjustable buckle strap you find in most motorfactors. Like this;



I went for re-stitching the strap and here it is; Looks much better too. I used a thick nylon high strength thread.





I do plan to get a new battery tray and having it powdercoated. I hammerited mine which is fine, hammerite does a great job.

I could not praise the Optima battery enough it has been flawless and consistent through the cold weather and after several days stood.

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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

How cold does it get there?
Last week we had quite nice weather here and started my 1.6 at -32C with no preheating. Normal 72ah battery

Quite fun without power steering and gearbox+clutch were somewhat stuck.
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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

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How cold does it get there?
Last week we had quite nice weather here and started my 1.6 at -32C with no preheating. Normal 72ah battery

Quite fun without power steering and gearbox+clutch were somewhat stuck.
I think just minus -c in single figures nothing dramatic. Cold enough for my liking It would effect the cheap batteries ive had previously no doubt about that.
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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

I had a bit of bother last sunday a rubber bush popped out on my gear selector linkage so i could not change gears. I was stuck in 3rd and managed to get to a layby. I changed it to 2nd from the engine bay and slowly got home using that gear only.

Luckily the damaged bush was just ontop of the wishbone when i opened the bonnet. You can see it here next to a replacement that cost just 1.48 PN:4259848


I wanted to buy an entire new gear linkage rod from Fiat but it is the only one of the three no longer available. ePer does not show this bush as replaceable on the rod.


This was another lucky moment, further down the gear linkage is a bush (part 2 in this diagram). I ordered one out of caution and it was exactly the same bush as the one that ePer does not list for the broken rod.



To get the rod out of the car I had to jack it up fairly high and unscrew one bolt, shown here.


Here it is, one end has a proper all metal ball joint infact all but two are this type.




And the other end takes that rubber bush.


So I had to press the new bush into the rod using a bench vice. I found a tapered pipe fitting in the shed with the exact same smaller diameter as the hole in the rod so I cut it now and used that to guide the bush in. I also heated the bush in boiling water for about 5min to soften it up.



So far that was all easy now the hard part getting the rubber bush to push onto the balljoint that is attached to the gearbox itself. It took me almost 4 hours to fit. I was trying all kinds of C-clamps, balljoint pullers and wood working clamps. In the end a wood working clamp that I chopped down in size and notched a grove into got it on. There is almost no room to work everything is in the way, subframe, steering rack, drive shaft, brake pipes, power steering cooler pipe, other gear linkage rods, gearbox case.

Someone has had a mess around with this before because the bottom nut in this next picture was rounded off, plus the inner wheel arch has some damage from someone prying somthing against it. I really would have liked to unscrew that nut and fit the balljoint into the bush in the shed. I will try and order a new balljoint from Fiat so if it happens again i can saw the damaged one off (no room to grind).

Top arrow shows the successfully refit gear linkage rod.


Here is a digram of the overall system,


I have taken measurements of the rod so If needed I could try and replace it with proper rose joints. Like this: Ive read of many other people doing it on other cars. Plus I have the other two rods new from Fiat.


Now that it is all fixed it turns out my car has always had a sloppy gear linkage since I have owned it. Previously There was a rubbery squeek when changing gear, thats gone. Going into fourth seemed like a very long throw I thought it was the norm and thats gone. Going into reverse I would sometimes have to make more than one attempt and thats fixed too. Changing gears feels really solid now, im very happy but it was hard work.

Interestingly when I boiled the original damaged bush in water it went back to a near perfect shape on the outside.

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Re: 1996 Fiat Bravo 1.8 HLX - Ink Black

My car passed its MOT today with no advisories. Very pleased. The tester was quite complimentary about the car too.

This years certificate has changed a little, it now shows your last four milage records. I really like that change.

My last four are;
51730
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I can get back to buying new parts soon once my insurance is out of the way. Should be refurbed wheels next I think.

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That car is stunning. A real credit to you
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Wow Adrian i really enjoyed reading through all the tings you have done to your motor.. And it looks really awesome. At the moment i have no where to do the work on mine but soon i am getting a large garage.. My motor is looking quite tired at the moment so i am raring to get in and tidy it up an customize the car.. I have not done any customizing now in many years and recall an old Ford escort Mk1 i once picked up and spent many hours and money customizing that.. It was a head turner in its day.. I like cars which have potential to customize and look good after it.. The Fiat Bravo Mk1 is definitely that.. And you have wet my appetite seeing the excellent work you have done on yours. Very impressive what you have done.. The door handles on mine have those covers over the handles which have rotted away and i intend changing them.. Also the ally metal around the base of the door mirrors has chipped away so will remove them and spray up or change if needed.
anyway again an excellent column bro..
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Hey thanks for the compliments fiorino and welcome to the forum Nice to hear you are getting a garage soon not having one myself really drives me crazy and limits so much of what I can do. Im looking forward to seeing any pictures and updates about what your doing with your 1.8.

If you have not seen the guides section yet check that for ideas aswell. https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo-brava-marea-guides/

I should be sending my spare set of wheels of for that refurb shortly.
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Wow Adrian i really enjoyed reading through all the tings you have done to your motor.. And it looks really awesome. At the moment i have no where to do the work on mine but soon i am getting a large garage.. My motor is looking quite tired at the moment so i am raring to get in and tidy it up an customize the car.. I have not done any customizing now in many years and recall an old Ford escort Mk1 i once picked up and spent many hours and money customizing that.. It was a head turner in its day.. I like cars which have potential to customize and look good after it.. The Fiat Bravo Mk1 is definitely that.. And you have wet my appetite seeing the excellent work you have done on yours. Very impressive what you have done.. The door handles on mine have those covers over the handles which have rotted away and i intend changing them.. Also the ally metal around the base of the door mirrors has chipped away so will remove them and spray up or change if needed.
anyway again an excellent column bro..
EDIT: and im very happy my thread has passed the 20,000 views mark

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