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Re: SEAT Marbella (Mk1 Panda replica).

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Re: SEAT Marbella (Mk1 Panda replica).

Got a bit more engineery...



Think will have to reduce the amount of lowering on the rear to achieve a straighter routing but it isn't looking like crazy angles now
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Got a bit more engineery...



Think will have to reduce the amount of lowering on the rear to achieve a straighter routing but it isn't looking like crazy angles now
Will it be raked to the front? - Coz 'the underbody aero'..
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Re: SEAT Marbella (Mk1 Panda replica).

So this weekend was sorting out the rear axle height and angle. I have sacrificed some lowering to allow the prop shaft angle to be minimised...will also not bottom out as much on the bump stops and moves the wheels back away from the arch as well which is good...but I preferred it being lower. I guess engineering is a world of compromise...

So 3 hrs of pillar drill / hole saw action I got a cradle shape machined into the blocks...and the axle can rotate in it. Not great that the bolt heads will not sit flat on the flange but it does give me the ability to adjust angles easily. And these bolts are hefty so should be some safety factor in there...probably should calculate that...





And painted and fitted...


So rear diff is only 3 down now and might even be possible to have a 2 piece prop shaft with single centre bearing. And hopefully no cutting of the floorplan!

1 month to go before the debut of the 4wd Marbella Turbo at Crystal Palace Sprint in London! As always, people welcome to come watch

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Re: SEAT Marbella (Mk1 Panda replica).

Lovely work, I salute you Sir.

Must ask though - the damper body looks as though it could stress against the bracket it shoulders up to, under droop perhaps. Does the spring angle the axle 'backwards' as it travels down?
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Lovely work, I salute you Sir.

Must ask though - the damper body looks as though it could stress against the bracket it shoulders up to, under droop perhaps. Does the spring angle the axle 'backwards' as it travels down?
Well spotted Yeah it gets pretty close. I have bent the brackets out so the dampers clear it just. It looks like they're interfering in the photo, but they just recess in a bit...but to be sure it clears I think I will flip the damper bottom eyelet 180 as this will move the damper further away. Worst case I think is at full droop but the axle does tilt back as you say when it compresses so don't think there is much in it.

I'll leave the brackets on though in case this project doesn't work out and it can go on to help another fortunate soul!
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Chop off the old brkts completely or fit shorter shocks at an angle to the cross member pehaphs use a rose joint. Any help ?? Sj
When they cut off you could refit in any position using u bolts and a plate.
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I know there loads to do still but what threaded rod did u use 8.8 or greater is that will be fine. No discs at rear yet ? Ah no it's only for going fast up hill not stoping !!! Ha ha
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Re: SEAT Marbella (Mk1 Panda replica).

So I just went with the option to flip the damper round but as it turns out the damper couldn't actually slide off so I had to cut a bit of the bracket off anyway! I was not removing the axle again lol...it's a bit fiddly to get it all tightened up evenly...

Anyway plenty of clearance now ...




Also yes used 8.8 grade bolts and nuts...

I believe stainless is not as good in fatigue so I kept to normal zinc plated.

So...maybe now I can just get a prop shaft and enjoy neck breaking accelerations
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I know there loads to do still but what threaded rod did u use 8.8 or greater is that will be fine. No discs at rear yet ? Ah no it's only for going fast up hill not stoping !!! Ha ha
Disc brakes might be nice someday...but they'll just slow me down ...arguably a good thing
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Re: SEAT Marbella (Mk1 Panda replica).

Info only.At Midland springs in coleshill there's a guy called Luke who can do great things with leaf springs .
Adam and I are off there for mod s to
Our springs on the green panda more height and more range of flex will
Let you know how we get on ,
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Info only.At Midland springs in coleshill there's a guy called Luke who can do great things with leaf springs .
Adam and I are off there for mod s to
Our springs on the green panda more height and more range of flex will
Let you know how we get on ,
Nice, I went with the 4x4 springs as I had some new ones handy but yeah might need to get ones designed for this set-up...Saw the red rally panda which has appeared on here a few times do a buckaroo on a rally stage, which mightve been down to using normal 4x4 springs / too much damping and much less body weight!
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Re: SEAT Marbella (Mk1 Panda replica).

Si. Magenta our next panda will be swinging arms fully floating axel. Pannrod arm and coils at the rear Same set up at front 45mm lowered engine and front wheel centre moved forward by 25 mm + 120mm lift again
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Si. Magenta our next panda will be swinging arms fully floating axel. Pannrod arm and coils at the rear Same set up at front 45mm lowered engine and front wheel centre moved forward by 25 mm + 120mm lift again
Nice! Are you following Fiats lead and going for Panda Colour themed names for your beasties?
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Well yes for Magenta. But the green one is panda Brian due to the hundreds of snails found in him
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