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nice to see you chose probably the best fiat engine. don't envy you though if you have any problems with it once it's all set up. there's barely enough space to work on the tipo, and that's without the turbo etc!!
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I would like to know how the balance is now with that engine
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Yeah me too , is it still on the road ?
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probably scrapped or crashed like most of them
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Re: Mk1 Punto GT 2l 16VT

his profile says he's not been online since 2014 guys, not likely to get an answer..

by far not the first one though, i don't think it would be that bad - its a big ol engine yes - but the GT engine is very very heavy for a 1.4 as well. Its not an upgrade i'd do now though - Tjet would make far more sense, easily make as much power if not more and it would be lighter than stock GT probably.
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his profile says he's not been online since 2014 guys, not likely to get an answer..

by far not the first one though, i don't think it would be that bad - its a big ol engine yes - but the GT engine is very very heavy for a 1.4 as well. Its not an upgrade i'd do now though - Tjet would make far more sense, easily make as much power if not more and it would be lighter than stock GT probably.
GT engine is heavy and 16vt is heavier for sure, but how much I dont know.

I believe TJET doesnt make more torque than 16vt (1.4 vs 2.0). Lets face it, TJET its a FIRE 1.4 engine witch have a turbo. Of course its not a bad engine
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probably scrapped or crashed like most of them
It would be a shame for sure.
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Re: Mk1 Punto GT 2l 16VT

There are tjets out there pushing well over 200bhp. That's plenty
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There are tjets out there pushing well over 200bhp. That's plenty
I knoe they can but what about the torque?

BTW, the weight between 16vt and gt engine is high?
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Re: Mk1 Punto GT 2l 16VT

well a stock 150hp tjet makes about 205Nm or 150ft.lb

the coupe 2.0 16vt is about 195bhp and 295Nm or 218ft.lb

GT engine (a gt1 not a gt3, almost same but not quite) is 136bhp with 208Nm or 153ft.lb

So yeah the 2.0 16vt is more powerful and more torque-y - no real surprises there, it being a 2.0 and the GT and Tjet being 1.4. But these are just out the box figures. My point is you get a tjet, stick a nice manifold on it and un uprated turbo and few little bits and they can make more power and torque than a coup 2.0 16vt easily and on top of that it would be lighter. I don't have actual weights of engines but bear in mind the 2.0 16vt engine is a cast iron block and was a pretty old engine when they dropped it in the coup, the GT engine i can tell you from first hand experience is damn heavy and was also already an old engine design when fitted to the punto. The tjet is really quite modern, yes based on a design from absolutely ages ago also but block material has changed from the older ones, I can move a tjet engine on my own by hand. OK i can't just lift it up like its nothing and if i did it alot i would prob hurt myself but i can lift one without a crane or pretty easily move one about.

Also when you consider the mk1 comes with FIRE based engines, all you would need to do is get some engine mounts for a fire engined mk1 and bolt them to a tjet and it would bolt right in the car. I mean it almost seems silly to consider another engine now, particularly as tjets are starting to become available for reasonable money now.
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Re: Mk1 Punto GT 2l 16VT

that tjet 150hp engine, which car is that?
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Re: Mk1 Punto GT 2l 16VT

grande punto and bravo have them, not sure what else if anything.

end of the day, all the tjets are pretty much the same, not exactly the same, but pretty much the same. most of them have the same turbo etc and most differences come from the ecu side of things. I believe, and i have a big document on tjet engines i not read yet which would confirm or not, that some tjets have different pistons and rods, namely the abarth cars. But i do not profess to be a tjet expert! But from that point of view if you are getting one to drop into a mk1 it wouldn't really matter hugely which exact engine as you would have a huge job making it run on the stock ecu, it would be alot easier and prob cheaper to run it off aftermarket management, thus meaning you are gonna map it and thus meaning you could swap out turbos and things as it would be properly mapped when finished.
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Re: Mk1 Punto GT 2l 16VT

the bad thing about Tjet engine is the fact its just 1.4 and thatīs a shame And I believe there isnt any stroker kit for them
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Re: Mk1 Punto GT 2l 16VT

mmmm stroker, pass dunno... but there is a huge aftermarket support for the engine, there is very little you could think of that someone has not already thought of and done to one. Plenty of 300+bhp ones out there and I honestly think thats probably more than you would ever need in a car as light as a mk1 punto.
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