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A few pics of the replacement for my troublsome GP it is not shiney clean as i haven't been able to get my arse out of the drivers seat as it is such a hoot to drive.
206 GTi 180
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like the seats:yum:
Sweet
TroyO
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Excellent choice of car.
Troy.
Troy.
Absolutely spot on, very nice indeed.
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Cheers Guys the seats are as nice to sit in as they look too
I Actually had been looking for a Civic Type R but i just couldn't find a good one for the money i wanted to spend. I came accross this by accident and i can't stress enough it is absolutely immacualte not a single mark on the interior or paintwork, no scuffs on the nice 17" alloys (and a full new set of Pirelli p7000's),
The car has done 20K miles from new and obviously owned by an enthusiast. There is every receipt for what has been spent on the car, plus a spreadsheet with every fuel fill up, mileage, qty, MPG and price from the day the car left the showroom.
I Actually had been looking for a Civic Type R but i just couldn't find a good one for the money i wanted to spend. I came accross this by accident and i can't stress enough it is absolutely immacualte not a single mark on the interior or paintwork, no scuffs on the nice 17" alloys (and a full new set of Pirelli p7000's),
The car has done 20K miles from new and obviously owned by an enthusiast. There is every receipt for what has been spent on the car, plus a spreadsheet with every fuel fill up, mileage, qty, MPG and price from the day the car left the showroom.
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Very nice buy Allan
How are you enjoying the drive so far?
Are the chassis and the engine any good? I've head that the 206 GTi didnt live up as the replacement to the 106 GTi however I've not heard if the 206 GTi 180 resolved this problem
How are you enjoying the drive so far?
Are the chassis and the engine any good? I've head that the 206 GTi didnt live up as the replacement to the 106 GTi however I've not heard if the 206 GTi 180 resolved this problem
looking good
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It is a hoot, 180BHP in something this size is just so wrong but just so right.
The engine is addictive and the gear ratio's are well spaced, it will rev and rev but i've found changing up at 7,000rpm is enough (you will be going at very illegal speeds by the time you need to change up to 3rd) and the noise is just fantastic, but on the flip side it is happy to crawl quietly along at 40mph in 5th
Handling wise it is very good, how it compares to predecessors i have no idea. I had a 309 GTi a long time ago and the 180 seems better than i remeber the 309 being but i think that is just because it is generally just more civalised and it was a long time ago. What i can say though is it is more than up to the job and it will corner at speeds that you wouldn't even think of attempting in other cars, if you reach the limits on the public road in a 180 you deserve everthing you get.
I let my brother have a drive yesterday and he is a serving police advanced driver so drives different stuff all the time. Even he says "it is one of the nicest handling cars he has driven in a long time maybe not the best but the nicest", so i'll take that as a professional endorsment. After driving the Grande Punto for the last 20 months it feels as though somone has installed rails on every corner just for me
The only thing that is a bit frightening though is the fuel consumption
The engine is addictive and the gear ratio's are well spaced, it will rev and rev but i've found changing up at 7,000rpm is enough (you will be going at very illegal speeds by the time you need to change up to 3rd
) and the noise is just fantastic, but on the flip side it is happy to crawl quietly along at 40mph in 5thHandling wise it is very good, how it compares to predecessors i have no idea. I had a 309 GTi a long time ago and the 180 seems better than i remeber the 309 being but i think that is just because it is generally just more civalised and it was a long time ago. What i can say though is it is more than up to the job
and it will corner at speeds that you wouldn't even think of attempting in other cars, if you reach the limits on the public road in a 180 you deserve everthing you get. I let my brother have a drive yesterday and he is a serving police advanced driver so drives different stuff all the time. Even he says "it is one of the nicest handling cars he has driven in a long time maybe not the best but the nicest", so i'll take that as a professional endorsment. After driving the Grande Punto for the last 20 months it feels as though somone has installed rails on every corner just for me
The only thing that is a bit frightening though is the fuel consumption
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ah, the best french car in quite a while, although a shame it still says 206 on the back :bang:
engine is taken from the 80's though isn't it?I recognise those inlet manifolds, tis a 1.9 bx gti 16v engine with an extra 25bhp bolted on, so performance wise its not much better than the 80's version, and from what I've heard, the fuel consumption is worse than a citroen bx's
that said, they handle like a dream, maybe not the best as your friend said, but certainly one of th nicest to play with! very responsive.
although I can never get used to frenchie brakes, where it bites RIGHT at the top, so high that if your trouser leg catchs the brake pedal you loose 8 front teeth on teh dashboard LOL.
enjoy it! engines are damn reliable, although they do run hot, and can be prone to injection overheating/fuel stavation when very hot in traffic = stalling, althoguh that was the old version, I'd have hoped peugeot would have fitted a modern injection system, but from teh sounds of your mpg woe's they probably haven't :bang:
engine is taken from the 80's though isn't it?I recognise those inlet manifolds, tis a 1.9 bx gti 16v engine
with an extra 25bhp bolted on, so performance wise its not much better than the 80's version, and from what I've heard, the fuel consumption is worse than a citroen bx's
that said, they handle like a dream, maybe not the best as your friend said, but certainly one of th nicest to play with! very responsive.
although I can never get used to frenchie brakes, where it bites RIGHT at the top, so high that if your trouser leg catchs the brake pedal you loose 8 front teeth on teh dashboard LOL.
enjoy it! engines are damn reliable, although they do run hot, and can be prone to injection overheating/fuel stavation when very hot in traffic = stalling, althoguh that was the old version, I'd have hoped peugeot would have fitted a modern injection system, but from teh sounds of your mpg woe's they probably haven't :bang:
Now there's a happy owner if I've ever seen one
Glad to hear that you're enjoying it mate, sounds like it'll be putting a smile on your face for plenty of miles to come
Glad to hear that you're enjoying it mate, sounds like it'll be putting a smile on your face for plenty of miles to come
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After owning a 1.3MJ 90 GP for almost two years and suffering the turbo that worked in geological time i think most cars would be an improvement
The engine is based on the normal PSA 2 litre 16 valve but it has the VTEC style continually variable valve timing that means it has the best of both worlds low down drivability (which is quite often the issue with rev hungry 16v engines) plus the top end power. So far it's averaging 26MPG which as i am still playing is probably to be expected, going through the previous owners records he was averaging 32.7mpg over his ownership.
so far very please but sure time will tell, only problem of course is that I now don't own a sensible car.... god bless the mid-life crisis:devil:
The engine is based on the normal PSA 2 litre 16 valve but it has the VTEC style continually variable valve timing that means it has the best of both worlds low down drivability (which is quite often the issue with rev hungry 16v engines) plus the top end power. So far it's averaging 26MPG which as i am still playing is probably to be expected, going through the previous owners records he was averaging 32.7mpg over his ownership.
so far very please but sure time will tell, only problem of course is that I now don't own a sensible car.... god bless the mid-life crisis:devil:
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TroyO
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Very nice buy Allan
How are you enjoying the drive so far?
Are the chassis and the engine any good? I've head that the 206 GTi didnt live up as the replacement to the 106 GTi however I've not heard if the 206 GTi 180 resolved this problem
Dunno about the 106 GTi but I found the handling of the 206 GTi to be very good. It was a lot better than the GP Sporting when I drove them back to back. The GTi180 is better still. The problem with the 206 is that it had live under the shadow of the 205 GTi and motor journalists nostalgia for the 205 (that and the cruddy driving position of the 206 :bang
.The 2L engine in the GTi/GTi180 is different series of engine to the 1.9L 16V used in the BX GTi but they apparently share some parts like the crankshaft from what I have read.
I found the normal 2L in the GTi to more tractable at low revs than the GTi180 2L, but when you opened the taps on the GTi180 it would leave the GTi for dead with all it's top end power. Not to mention the glorious sounding induction note.
Troy.
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The only thing I couldn't understand when they realesed this car was the performance, its got 42bhp more than the old 206 gti but only half a second faster to 60 (7.5 in 180 and 8.0 in old gti). Even top speed has only been increased by 7mph, 130 to 137!
Really good looking car, and looks to be as new! Just thought 42bhp would have had more effect.
Really good looking car, and looks to be as new! Just thought 42bhp would have had more effect.
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it is in gear acceleration were you feel the extra power,
the more i drive the thing the more a realise i have spent too many years driving diesel as a main car, the 206 is now averaging 34mpg which is 8 mpg less than the 1.3mj 90 GP it replaced, add in the fact that diesel is at least 10p per litre more expensive then i am not really loosing out that much in day to day terms plus, i am less stressed at the end of every journey
the more i drive the thing the more a realise i have spent too many years driving diesel as a main car, the 206 is now averaging 34mpg which is 8 mpg less than the 1.3mj 90 GP it replaced, add in the fact that diesel is at least 10p per litre more expensive then i am not really loosing out that much in day to day terms plus, i am less stressed at the end of every journey
Great taste in cars
heres mine
on a 54 as well but in flamenco red and 47k on the clocks so fully wore in (apparently they dont wear in till 40k)
if you havent already i would recomend a stainless sytem, i have the full Janspeedon mine and the sound is unreal and it seems to start pulling strong at 3400 revs now, fuel ecconomy is bad at 24mpg round town and 27 mpg average over a tank but it makes me smile every time i drive it
bloody amazing cars, my sister has a mint 51 plate 206 GTi 138 and for those thinking there isnt much difference you are SOO wrong, not only does it leave it for dead off the line, it kills it mid range and top end and the handling difference is unreal, as allen saids you find yourself getting way above the speed limit before the car starts to loose grip
has the snap happy oversteer caught you yet i have always had my cars set up to oversteer rather than understeer, the arosa especially you could have that drifting round corners but in the 180 come into a sharp corner, back off and you end up 90 degrees but feather the throttle and then boot it and your gone (i found this out by accident )
wayne
heres mine
on a 54 as well but in flamenco red and 47k on the clocks so fully wore in (apparently they dont wear in till 40k)
if you havent already i would recomend a stainless sytem, i have the full Janspeedon mine and the sound is unreal and it seems to start pulling strong at 3400 revs now, fuel ecconomy is bad at 24mpg round town and 27 mpg average over a tank but it makes me smile every time i drive it
bloody amazing cars, my sister has a mint 51 plate 206 GTi 138 and for those thinking there isnt much difference you are SOO wrong, not only does it leave it for dead off the line, it kills it mid range and top end and the handling difference is unreal, as allen saids you find yourself getting way above the speed limit before the car starts to loose grip
has the snap happy oversteer caught you yet
i have always had my cars set up to oversteer rather than understeer, the arosa especially you could have that drifting round corners but in the 180 come into a sharp corner, back off and you end up 90 degrees but feather the throttle and then boot it and your gone (i found this out by accident )wayne
At least it has the same handling characteristics as it's dad then :yum:
Like these a lot and and the money you can pick them up for is very tempting..
Any reliabilty issue's with them? I've not heard of any so far
Like these a lot and and the money you can pick them up for is very tempting..
Any reliabilty issue's with them? I've not heard of any so far
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OP
Great taste in cars
if you havent already i would recomend a stainless sytem, i have the full Janspeedon mine and the sound is unreal and it seems to start pulling strong at 3400 revs now, fuel ecconomy is bad at 24mpg round town and 27 mpg average over a tank but it makes me smile every time i drive it
wayne
It will have a stainless one on in the end but the current one is still in very good condition and gives a nice rasp so it can stay for now, plus the spare car cash at the moment is going into the Cinq Turbo money pit and a rebuild on the Cavalier's suspension but the end is in sight
I'm doing better on economy than you averaging 32mpg constantly
No re-map and induction for the 180?
