Technical just changed cambelt on 1800 but now noisy

rustygoat · Apr 17, 2006

hi guys
just changed the cambelt on my 1800 16v, went easy enough
but now its noisy from the exhaust valve side, runs a treat
i had been on a 300 mile run the day before, i had not started the engine before i changed the cambelt so i don't know if it was already noisy.

on both the cam shaft pulleys and the crankshaft (the shaft not the pulley)
there are marks/lines (normal thing you get to line up pulleys)
i lined the 2 camshaft pulley marks adjacent to each other and the crankshaft maft in line with the mark on the engine block
(as you would normally do on a ford or vauxhall)

anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

predrag · Apr 17, 2006

Look this.Maybe thic can help you

rustygoat · Apr 17, 2006

thanks for that
i've not got the tools that the manual suggests, and on my camshaft pulleys there are markers which on other makes of cars u use to line up the camshafts

gregit · Apr 17, 2006

Luke... says:

Clearly the timing is out.

FIN

rustygoat · Apr 23, 2006

can't get hold of the camshaft holding tools(replace's the camshaft brackets)
there must be a way to set this up without these tools.
the probelm i'm have is that my pulleys have marks on them, i thought these marks should line up oppisite each other,(but in trying that the engines out slightly)
i can't see any where else these marks will line up.
come on guys someone must have an idea

trev m · Apr 23, 2006

rustygoat said:
can't get hold of the camshaft holding tools(replace's the camshaft brackets)
there must be a way to set this up without these tools.
the probelm i'm have is that my pulleys have marks on them, i thought these marks should line up oppisite each other,(but in trying that the engines out slightly)
i can't see any where else these marks will line up.
come on guys someone must have an idea[/QUOTE

http://www.franklin-tools.co.uk

Photo of locking tool

http://www.franklin-tools.co.uk/acatalog/TA468.GIF

TA468 Engine Timing Set - FIAT 1.8 16v
Tensioner, Camshaft and Flywheel tools. 5 pce set for Fiat Brava Bravo Marea, Marea Weekend (1995-) and Barchetta Coupe (1996-). 1.8 16v twin cam models. Supplied in polypropylene case.

Price: £127.00 (Excluding: VAT at 17.5%)

tazztham · Apr 24, 2006

hi predrag,

i am having a 1.9 JTD105 marea and thinking of changing the timing belt/tensioner as well. do u have the diagram as well?

appreciated that.

predrag · Apr 26, 2006

O.K

Here`s for youre car

tazztham · Apr 27, 2006

hi predrag,

many thanks. are u having the service CDs or something? any possibility to get one from you?

i really need it at i like to DIY.

predrag · Apr 27, 2006

It`s a plasure.Yes I have a CD come to Belgrade and I give it...Joke.I have a very slow conection and I can`t to see any way to give him to you.

tazztham · Apr 28, 2006

err... sorry pal. i am lost what do u mean by Belgrade? i mean if you can burn me the CD and mail by post.

i am willing to pay u for that. how? can get that?

thanks.

nathanrobo · Mar 2, 2009

Hi

I've had a similar problem on my Barchetta, changing the variator and cambelt...

I used a Franklin cam setting tool but used a screwdriver to identify true TDC (i.e. when piston no 1 is in it's highest position). I could find any corresponding marks on the flywheel (inspected through the gearbox bell-housing inspection) and the dowel on the crankcase pulley does not line up exactly as shown on the manual (CD Rom). The car started fine but sounded noisy on the exhaust cam side.

Can anyone tell me what I'M doing wrong? I've never encountered problems when changing cam-belts on other motors.

Could anyone post actual pictures of the timing marks both ends?

Thanks

Nathan

bridges · Mar 2, 2009

If you mark with tipex etc. the cam wheels and tipex carefully lined up marks on the head casing, the crank pulley and again a lined up mark on the block.
also mark the cambelt to the same marks and transfer the markings to the new belt and don't move anything then i don't see how you can go wrong.

ps, have you tensioned the belt too tight?

Belt could be out a tooth between cam pulleys.

HgtBill · Mar 2, 2009

Thats a sure way of getting it wrong, you have to slacken the pulleys so they twist as you tension it. You can't do this job properly without the locking tools or folllowing the proper procedure.

bridges · Mar 2, 2009

HgtBill said:
Thats a sure way of getting it wrong, you have to slacken the pulleys so they twist as you tension it. You can't do this job properly without the locking tools or folllowing the proper procedure.

I've done quite a few! so think what you like, cam tools are a sure way of locking things down but once the belt is on it can be tensioned quite easily.

HgtBill · Mar 2, 2009

bridges said:
I've done quite a few! so think what you like, cam tools are a sure way of locking things down but once the belt is on it can be tensioned quite easily.

I don't see how, once the variators off the vernier cam pulley on the inlet has moved.

bridges · Mar 2, 2009

HgtBill said:
I don't see how, once the variators off the vernier cam pulley on the inlet has moved.

Was refering to cambelts in general, on closer inspection of the schematic and based on what you put....

I totally forgot the 1.8 had a variator :bang:
my apologies to you bill

HgtBill · Mar 3, 2009

No problem, I just was'nt sure if I was making a difficult job harder

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