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Old 21-02-2006   #31
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i'm starting to lean more towards the petrol now, being me you know i'm going to be nailing it to take on the biggest cars i can find

170bhp for an 18 year old isnt bad
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Although you might be able to afford the car, its insurance and the petrol.. Have you budgeted for all the things that could go wrong? You'd be gutted if your car was off the road because you needed a couple of hundred pounds worth of parts/labour.
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Although you might be able to afford the car, its insurance and the petrol.. Have you budgeted for all the things that could go wrong? You'd be gutted if your car was off the road because you needed a couple of hundred pounds worth of parts/labour.
no i havent and yes i will
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Good man.

Just spent hundreds on the Tipo, couple more hundred to come. Gotta keep the old wheels turning
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You do realise that on the 20V, the cambelt is a 1300 engine-out job?
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You do realise that on the 20V, the cambelt is a 1300 engine-out job?
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yep, getting one thats had the cambelt done
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MJTD??? not heard of that before?
The MJTD 2.4 is in the flagship Fiat Croma, that produces 200 bhp standard

after a remap I dread to think!

Might also find the engine in a few alfa's.
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Your all mental.

The Diesal has more torque and more bhp, it is the faster car out of the two, it is better on fuel, has cheaper tuning potential (ie larger turbo and or more boost for a dramatic increase) and the insurance will be about 10 groups lower.

Your all crazy I tell ya for even thinking about not getting the diesal!!
Im shocked. You agree with me about something.

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yep, getting one thats had the cambelt done
Er, the smiley was meant to indicate that it's NOT a 1300 engine-out job (though it once was). 400 would see it done, with all tensioners replaced.
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Er, the smiley was meant to indicate that it's NOT a 1300 engine-out job (though it once was). 400 would see it done, with all tensioners replaced.
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i thought you were over quoting for a coupe turbo, i know its 800 at the dealership, apparently goes as low as 300 according to hellcat, i havent found anywhere that will do it yet tho

if i can find somwhere i will buy one that needs it doing and get it done
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Quote Originally Posted by bulldog5046
i thought you were over quoting for a coupe turbo, i know its 800 at the dealership, apparently goes as low as 300 according to hellcat, i havent found anywhere that will do it yet tho

if i can find somwhere i will buy one that needs it doing and get it done
Hey don't drag me into it!

400 from www.powerfiat.co.uk
Maybe less from www.motormech.co.uk
Also you could try the new fiat place that some guy has promoted.
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Hey don't drag me into it!

400 from www.powerfiat.co.uk
Maybe less from www.motormech.co.uk
Also you could try the new fiat place that some guy has promoted.
looking at 450 including traveling, ness i have to goto london for my brothers company then that gets paid, will check places local see how much they want
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Re: So which is better? petrol V JTD

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Petrol.

The diesel is heavier, so more strain on front suspension components which in turn means more understeer, less well balanced car, the bane of all FWD diesel cars. Front suspension bushes go more readily as do shocks, & front brakes also wear out quicker as well, and are usually more expensive to replace as being uprated to handle the great big lump of iron above them. Tyre wear is also more prominent on diesel cars again due to the extra weight, but also due to the diesels characterises of low down torque, the tyres have got to transmit that to the road and if you want to launch off the line like a petrol car it becomes a constant losing battle for the tyres.

When it comes to service costs it isn't just oil and plugs you have to consider, and as you are talking about a 2nd hand car these things become all the more apparent as they will no doubt be closer to the end of there servicable life.

Drive both, as only you will know which you prefer, you can seek advice but at the end of the day cars are bought with a gut feeling most of the time, not by the head full of other peoples opinions.

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I got over 201000 miles out of my 99 Clio diesel in six years and still had the original suspension bushings and shocks, front and rear. the diesel engine is a little heavier and you normally get stiffer suspension parts to offset the extra weight. This give an additional benefit of better handling. I also had no tire wear issues even though I used Continental and Uniroyal with a TWI of 280, not a hard or long lasting tire. So far I have 30000 miles in under a year on my Idea 1.9 MJTD and there is normal wear on the factory Goodyears with just under 4mm left on the fronts.
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The 150 hp 1.9 MJTD is due to be installed in the Grande Punto before too long. I hope they also make it available in the 5 door version.
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