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Retro fit GPS speed limiters

Anyone heard about the GPS speed limiters being fitted to all cars from 2022?
Then they need to be retro fitted to everything else by 2024.

I guess that means they won't sell any new cars for 2 years then...

I've no idea what the cost of this would be for classics (I have 4!)

It's a Euro thing but manufacturers probably won't do a UK market specific version without the limiter?? It's unclear if the UK will go with the retro fit law.

They mooted this for motorbikes a few years back, but since the throttle is part of how you pick up the bike from a lean angle, everyone crashed all the time during tests. Truly stupefying stuff..

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Re: Retro fit GPS speed limiters

There's no requirement to retrofit to older car's as far as I'm aware
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Re: Retro fit GPS speed limiters

Itís a european law that all new cars will need gps speed limiters, itís not actually a uk rule and doesnít technically apply because itís been introduced after brexit, but it is likely to affect uk consumers as the cars made in Europe will be to European standards and will be sold with those limiters in the uk.

I expect a large after market in removing the limiters
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Re: Retro fit GPS speed limiters

It will be anything from wrapping the GPS antenna in tin foil to complete electronics mods. No in-car sat nav but phones do that just fine.
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Re: Retro fit GPS speed limiters

The information I read said that the driver would be able to override the limiter.

There are two options for managing the limitation, GPS and sign recognition. Both have issues with accuracy, and the driver must not be left in a dangerous situation because of this, so an override is allowable.

We have all experienced satnavs that display the wrong speed limit. They rely on data provided by local authorities, which can be wrong, by a few metres, or sometimes just very wrong. Satnavs get confused when minor roads travel parallel to motorways, sometimes giving a 30 limit on the motorway, or a 70 in a housing estate.

Many new cars now have road sign recognition, like ANPR. The camera at the top of the windscreen, used for lane guidance and adaptive cruise, also see speed limit signs, (and selected warning signs) and displays them on the dash. The limiter can be tied in with that. However, these cameras can give incorrect information. There was a speed change in Swindon, on unusually high poles, that no camera would see. Had to correct several drivers who thought the housing estate was still a 40. Then often side roads will display their speed limit on angled signs, to help us see them on approach. The cameras will often read these, and display a lower limit that actual. (Or sometimes higher.)

When exceeding the limit, the driver will be alerted with a warning beep, or several, and some resistance to increasing speed, which can be overcome.

The purpose is not to control the vehicles like Big Brother, but to discourage drivers from exceeding limits. Many drivers exceed limits deliberately, and these will probably continue to do so. Many more exceed limits through inattention, not really knowing what speed they are doing, or what the limit is. Witness those that brake at speed cameras, when not exceeding the limit. These will 'benefit' the most from limiters, as will the rest of us, as we are less likely to become vicitms of their inattention.
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Re: Retro fit GPS speed limiters

The way I read it any new model designed from 2022 has to have one fitted
and all new cars sold after 2024 have to have one, this is new sales anything
already on the road is ok, be interesting what happens in 20 limits as it's very
rare at lest round here for anyone to take notice of that, the odd one that does
ends up with a line of traffic behind all loosing the will to live.
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Re: Retro fit GPS speed limiters

Quote Originally Posted by RalphM View Post
The way I read it any new model designed from 2022 has to have one fitted
and all new cars sold after 2024 have to have one, this is new sales anything
already on the road is ok, be interesting what happens in 20 limits as it's very
rare at lest round here for anyone to take notice of that, the odd one that does
ends up with a line of traffic behind all loosing the will to live.
Theres a section of motorways link road between m62 and the a1m near me thats a 50 mph buts it's rare for cars to do that and not 70
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