A friend want's a Twinair teamed with a Dualogic,

after fruitless attempts at finding a 500 in such spec - :idea: I suggested the Ypsillon

you'd hope the "American" Chrysler badged Lancia would have less stick-shifts per hundred registered..,

he looked on the Chrysler UK site to find they no longer sell in the UK

so looks like the "rebirth of Lancia" in the UK has failed again..,
Nello..do you know more..??

Charlie

varesecrazy said:

A friend want's a Twinair teamed with a Dualogic,

after fruitless attempts at finding a 500 in such spec - :idea: I suggested the Ypsillon

you'd hope the "American" Chrysler badged Lancia would have less stick-shifts per hundred registered..,

he looked on the Chrysler UK site to find they no longer sell in the UK

so looks like the "rebirth of Lancia" in the UK has failed again..,

Nello..do you know more..??

Charlie

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http://www.chrysler.co.uk/

Chrysler have been gone a while now, i read it was because there tolal sales for 2014 was less than 2000 cars.

If i was rich i would have bought and kept a ypsilon in white, to have something that rare and different,
Whats very strange in i have read the Chrysler uk forum and there is no mention of Chrysler leaving the uk

To be fair to the car buying public the last range of chrysler cars were pretty dire and no better than what fiat were producing.

AndyRKett said:

To be fair to the car buying public the last range of chrysler cars were pretty dire and no better than what fiat were producing.

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You would have thought it would be worthy of a mention on the chrysler uk forums thou

varesecrazy said:

A friend want's a Twinair teamed with a Dualogic,

after fruitless attempts at finding a 500 in such spec - :idea: I suggested the Ypsillon

you'd hope the "American" Chrysler badged Lancia would have less stick-shifts per hundred registered..,

he looked on the Chrysler UK site to find they no longer sell in the UK

so looks like the "rebirth of Lancia" in the UK has failed again..,

Nello..do you know more..??

Charlie

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Yes FCA have pulled the plug on Chrysler UK : http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/chrysler/90850/chrysler-axed-in-the-uk

The Ypsilon was the last to go - indeed I believe Italy will be the only market for the Lancia brand thanks to Marchionne.

We did get four 'rebranded ' Delta's at Mitcar not long ago though! :slayer: Rarer than a Lambo here now

Real shame TBH but if its not mass-market then FCA are not interested........

we test drove a Ypsilon & 500 when the wife was changing her car, & for two cars that are basically identical under different clothing they couldn't have been more different. Prior to the test drive I really wanted the wife to buy the Ypsilon as its different, but I was amazed at just how rubbish a car it was! It had a very weird driving position, you felt like you were sitting on the seat rather than in it, & it seemed to have no space at all. The only slightly redeeming part was the dash - even then it was the best part of a very poor product. & of course in Ireland they tried to push Chrysler as a premium product which meant prices that were way too high - doomed to fail..... still wouldn't mind taking a Delta for a spin!

I've always wanted to own a Lancia and never really been brave enough, Integrale is still and always will be in my top five all time favorite cars.

If my experience is anything to go by, I wouldn't bother to buy or save a car that is no longer in production/imported.

I bought my Fiat 127 Fiorino, purely because it was the only one left in the UK and was destined for the crusher. I have spent £5000 on bringing it back to a solid codition and now I want to move it on so I can focus on my Strada cabrio.
Despite being willing to lose a lot of money to let the car go to someone who will treasure it I have had only one serious enquiry and that was from Ireland.
It would seem that regardless of rarity and regardless of how much you spend on preserving a vehicle, people only want fully restored vehicles at scrapyard prices.
The rarity or significance of a vehicle, unless it's a million pound Ferrari, appears to be completely lost in the classic car world.
Never again will I "rescue" a vehicle based on sentiment. After all, the world will not be any worse a place because a marque or model no longer exists.

FiorinoDan said:

If my experience is anything to go by, I wouldn't bother to buy or save a car that is no longer in production/imported.

I bought my Fiat 127 Fiorino, purely because it was the only one left in the UK and was destined for the crusher. I have spent £5000 on bringing it back to a solid codition and now I want to move it on so I can focus on my Strada cabrio.
Despite being willing to lose a lot of money to let the car go to someone who will treasure it I have had only one serious enquiry and that was from Ireland.
It would seem that regardless of rarity and regardless of how much you spend on preserving a vehicle, people only want fully restored vehicles at scrapyard prices.
The rarity or significance of a vehicle, unless it's a million pound Ferrari, appears to be completely lost in the classic car world.
Never again will I "rescue" a vehicle based on sentiment. After all, the world will not be any worse a place because a marque or model no longer exists.

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Noooo!

Keep it going lad.

You're right.. financially it's a no-brainer. On the other hand, we aren't all accountants and there's a reason for that..

It's good for the soul.. and sooner or later someone WILL come across "your" 127 and value it for just how there's not a single other one left.

Anywhere.


Ralf S.

Let's hope so. Then I can focus on preserving this one.......

cant help but think it might have been a different story if they had kept the Lancia badge,

Officina red said:

Whats very strange in i have read the Chrysler uk forum and there is no mention of Chrysler leaving the uk

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ben

Sergio doesn't really like Lancia.

I'm hoping the brand will survive so that following a successful rebrand of Alfa, the group might find itself with sufficient spare money that it can invest in a similar reboot of Lancia.

I think Lancia got lost between "bread and butter" (Fiat) and "sporty" (Alfa).

Fiat wanted to position it as "Luxury" .. which was fine when your rivals are "Rover" or "Saab".. but its rivals killed off "Rover" and "Saab" until they became just Merc' and Audi.

The Germans shaped buyer expectations for Luxury to also being "quite sporty"... since they were trying to compete with the dominant BMW... and Lancia just didn't keep up since it was essentially built on Fiat platforms that were designed for "bread and butter" and so perhaps not sophisticated enough without considerable investment.. and FCA historically has never had much cash.

A better condition Alfa might provide a source of more premium and sporty platforms.. but Lancia would still be hamstrung between a new Ypsilon (perhaps a 500 derivative in future) and being not soooo good that it interferes with the ever down-sizing Maserati. It's an awkward fit.

I think there is a niche though.. small volume runs of a new Fulvia (SpideX 124) or Delta (on the possible/next RWD Giulietta) could make a 3-model range with enough sales to be worthwhile.. It'll be interesting to see where the post-Marchionne era takes it..


Ralf S.