Re: new Fiat

WOW ... I really like it, It looks great

I really like the front grill, the whole car looks sleek, its like a mini Stilo

Re: new Fiat

Yeah I like that there was another thread on it recently! I like the front grille reminds me of a Maserati!

i didnt used to like it that much but now seeing these photoshops iv fell in love with it!

Looks a little "Maserati-esque" at the front end to me. Still a big step forward from the current mess.

Re: new Fiat

Other thread is here:

https://www.fiatforum.com/showthread.php?t=36243

Have now moved this thread from Stilo->General

Only one problem with it as far as I can see... It's a diesel... The badge on the grille says MultiJet...

I've merged the two thread that were started about this.

Ozric-Al said:

Looks a little "Maserati-esque" at the front end to me. Still a big step forward from the current mess.

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You're right, it does look like the Maserati 3200/ 4200 which is nothing to be ashamed of!

I love it and think this makes up for the boring Mk2 (even though I owned one, I never 'enjoyed' it like my Mk1), and awful 2.5 face-lift. I have seen a few piccies now of the usual Max-power type shots and the 'normal' versions, and I think the normal versions also look very smart.

As for the engines, the 1.2 8v 65bhp makes total sense to release first as this will be the engine the majority of Punto owners will buy (how many 8v Active's are out there ). That or a diesel model so they are getting them to the market early. The 1.4 8v is a total curiosity to me, and can only assume it is a 'gap filler' until the 1.2 16v engine to be shared with the Corsa is released.

Why they didn't go the whole hog and introduce the 95bhp 1.4 16v from the Stilo/ current Punto and Idea I don't know. The 8v engine is likely to need more work than the 1.2 16v to meet euro 4 (8 valves are naturally less efficient that 16)

As for those who think it looks like a Corsa, you might want to open your eyes

Many cars share platforms and engines yet feel unique. Despite sharing 60% (by value) of all components, the Mitsubishi Colt and smart forfour feel totally different to drive. This is largely down to steering callibration, damper and spring rates which, in the case of the Punto/ Corsa are likely to favour a softer set up for ride comfort on the Corsa and a Firmer set up for sharp handling on the Punto. Of course all of this hard work will all go out of the window when some owners start 'dropping' their car in the misconception it makes the car handle better. Oh how I laugh to myself when I hear this...

I think it's a stunner but I'll wait to see what performance petrol engines they bring out before I decide whether to get one (used of course)

JTD Monkey said:

The 1.4 8v is a total curiosity to me, and can only assume it is a 'gap filler' until the 1.2 16v engine to be shared with the Corsa is released.

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The current Corsa has a 1.2 16v (I think 1198cc, not 1242cc) that's good for 80bhp and 110Nm, giving a combined mpg of 53.3! If Fiat are sharing the diesel engines, then GM should share the other way as well. (OK, I know the MJTDs were co-developed). With a good efficient petrol engine, there's less need on a small car to go with a turbo diesel.

think it looks fab from all angles

such an improvement from today's model (is it me or does the grill make the car look like it's got buck teeth?)

according to autocar, fiat new car sales are down 53% this year so it needs this car on the road as soon as possible.

looks like a peugeot euro box.not italian at all.so a bit crappy looking.might grow on me.as long as it more reliable then current fiats!!!

Gav said:

The current Corsa has a 1.2 16v (I think 1198cc, not 1242cc) that's good for 80bhp and 110Nm, giving a combined mpg of 53.3!

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Indeed, the two petrol engines in the Mk2.5 Punto and current 'Coarse' are in no way related, but this will change with the Mk3. In the same way as the Alfa 159 has GM petrols (1.9, 2.2 and 3.2 V6) but with their own TS heads. I did think Fiat may have opted for the 'Coarse' 1.0 12v to replace the 1.2 8v engine as it is quite torquey (quite a long stroke) but it seems not

Gav said:

With a good efficient petrol engine, there's less need on a small car to go with a turbo diesel.

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Depends if you want a no-mans land of gutless nothing below 4000rpm or turbo-charged thrust. I have driven a 'Coarse' with the 80bhp twin port engine and there was little to recommend it. Gutless, torque-free and anaemic, although it was happy to rev

just seen a video of it and yes iam begiining to like it.build quality seems a lot better then has been.it sits well from all angles.but,doesn't it look a lot like the new polo as well?

Styling-wise, this is much better than the final (current) incarnation. They ruined the lines with all those extra lights & stuff post 2003.

I will have one of these. I hope that it's better built than my 2003 Active Sport.

& Sprint blue is sooooooooooooooo the best colour.

Punto Active Sport. Can 60bhp look sexier?

Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.

Steve said:

Maybe the 1.2 16v will be exclusive to the Sporting and will be launched at a later date along with the 1.6 Turbo?

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hi, this car looks syunning! cant wait to get my hands on it! are you sure a 1.6 turbo is coming out?i hear a lot of stuff about it like its got 240bhp? do you know if thats true????

Video of new Punto???

Whats the link?

its funny how some people were saying it looks like a maserati cos in the auto express this week it calls it a mini maserati lol they say it looks great with the swooping lines and finger nail headlights.

The more I see of it the more I like it. I really want one.

Ilove it, when due to change my Mk 2.5 Sporting next November I hope to get the Abarth with the Turbo Diesel (150bhp if rumours correct?) and probably fit a kosher tuning box onto the common rail, maybe 175/180 bhp???