GSR or BMC CDA

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GSR or BMC CDA

Decided against the GSR induction kit after speaking to Alfa Nige as he tells me that he can provide me with a BMC CDA with all the fixing stuff for £135, whereas GSR want £280 :eek: Think I know where to spend my money (y)
 
Get the GSR F10i, i have had a CDA and it isnt in the same league as the F10i. The F10i produces so much torque and the power delievery is amazing.

Yeah is £280 but the cost of material involved and the amount of development that has go into it is all reflected in the price. I'm my eyes if you buy the CDA you will regret it eventually.

With the modifications on my car the F10i just finished the package so well. If anyone wants to experience it i'm more than willing to take them out in my car.

Also if you want more pics of the F10i pm me or go to www.clubfirepower.co.uk and look under the 1242 16v section.
 
I spoke to the relevant people and the from what I heard the GSR offers 8Nm more than the BMC CDA.

8Nm = 5.9 lb ft
and that is at the fly wheel

The usual power loss through the running gear is 18% So that makes is 4.8lb ft torque gain at the wheels.....

for an extra £150 is it really worth it?

Me thinks not,

Dave
 
the relevent people? Angel Tuning? They claim the mapping of the 1242 16v is setup for a CDA. Its not, just a standard car. Be careful they also massage their performance figures.

Oh and before i get shot down on this issue i have nothing against angel tuning.

At the end of the day its your car, i just know the F10i is a far superior piece of kit than a 130 CDA.
 
JamesMK2 said:
the relevent people? Angel Tuning? They claim the mapping of the 1242 16v is setup for a CDA. Its not, just a standard car. Be careful they also massage their performance figures.

Oh and before i get shot down on this issue i have nothing against angel tuning.

At the end of the day its your car, i just know the F10i is a far superior piece of kit than a 130 CDA.
Bully for you then :p

Have you got any proof? Have you?
 
Yeah i have got proof phone angel up and then phone red-dot who make the re-maps. You will get a lot of different figures.

At the end of the day i have a GSR and you want a BMC.

Get it fitted and i'll organise a standard car and well run them on the same R/R and see which one turns over more power. Therefore settling the age old arguement.
 
The CDA sucks in air exactly the same as any other filter. Any filter is affected by the rolling road although they do place a fan in front of the vehicle to immitate air flow.

The CDA is just a filter, not an iduction kit. During the early stages of the F10i's development we did test with the CDA and origanally the F10i was going to be made with the CDA. Dont get me wrong, we liked the cda but it didnt produce the same acceleration as using the 70mm BMC Twincone. We felt that the car gain a huge gain by not using an enclosed and restricted airfilter. There was a massive increase in performance between the prototype and the final production model that uses the 100mm twin cone.

The F10i is serious kit, and a lot of my time and GSR's time went into its testing and development before even pictures of the prototype were released. The F10i was nearly a year in development with two prototypes and 3 different types of filter and i think the final version is superb.

If people are not happy with R/R testing between the CDA setup + F10i then find a similarly tuned punto to mine and we can do some 1/4 mile times. Thats how happy i am with the F10i.
 
LOL i am a poor student!!! And i can assure you that i am a lot poorer than most!!!

End of the day its there, currently the best piece of kit on the market and you either love it or hate it.

I'm hoping to take it to stanford hall, i admit its priced high but thats the cheapest that it can be produced for. GSR has to make a living and they dont even break even until they sell 50 units.
 
unfortunatly though they have got them selves a bad name not because of quality of the kit, but because 98% of people who come on to ff to plug the kits, pee everybody off. no one is going to give their money to someone who has all these bad repps even if they are not paid to plug the product. better way to sell them on here would be to pay for small add at top of screen, if ben will allow it.
 
Sadly Fiat cant do anything about the people who buy their cars and neither car GSR with the people who buy their products.

Its a shame that GSR has a few customers that have caused a bad name because the products are all of the highest quality and the information they give is first class. Maybe with the recent removal of certain members of the forum who used to promote their products you can start to understand them a bit more.

James
 
JamesMK2 said:
Maybe with the recent removal of certain members of the forum who used to promote their products you can start to understand them a bit more.
Ah, now it all becomes clear...

Those people who got removed only had themselves to blame, end of.

Anyway, doesn't bother me, I got a CDA and I am very happy with it (y)
 
JamesMK2 said:
Sadly Fiat cant do anything about the people who buy their cars and neither car GSR with the people who buy their products.

Its a shame that GSR has a few customers that have caused a bad name because the products are all of the highest quality and the information they give is first class. Maybe with the recent removal of certain members of the forum who used to promote their products you can start to understand them a bit more.

James

Hear hear!

I did see this thread earlier with some amusement.

We have never understood why there always seems to be animosity towards Angel Tuning from GSR, it certainly isn't the other way around as any 8v enquiries we get (and believe me its a fair few!!) We always point them to the GSR website and tell them how good they are.

Indeed, GSR have been let down by a number of "customers" promoting them, especially on forums, and that has actually generated a large chunk of business for us, literally because of these "customers", people won't go to GSR. Its not what we want, but we wont turn them away!

I for one have never said anything bad about any other company and their products, promotions or indeed people and it saddens me when companies resort to criticism of another companies product instead of promoting their own. Especially via PM, that is very unprofessional and makes you look desperate.

The F10i kit may well provide better torque than the CDA and I have no doubt it is a quality product but so is the CDA for the price. Should you wish to spend the money to gain the extra 8Nm from your engine and you think the price is VFM for that gain then we really wish you well and hope it works as you expect. If you want to spend £300 on a CDA and Remap combination from us as you think that is VFM for what it is then once again we hope it will give you what you want for what you are prepared to pay.

We all pay silly money for things that we really want sometimes whether its worth it or not - i.e. would you really spend £250+ on having your company name engraved on your brake discs lol! (Yes that’s me by the way!) which some people would say is stupid etc as xyz discs are better etc etc, but its what I wanted.

Lastly, I really do wish GSR well, I wouldn’t have minded selling their kit to be honest, but alas it seems an approach is not worth it to do so. As we only do circa 1 x 1.2 Punto a week to be honest, probably a lot less than GSR so its a very small part of our business and I don't expect it has dented their trade in any way, so can we have a truce on this stupidity from all please.

Lastly, RDR and ourselves have an agreement on what we have had done for us, enough said.
 
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