DRL's are actually more dangerous than not having them.

Why?

They give a false sense of security. I've seen lots of people driving in low visibility conditions with DRL's, which are of course automatic. The drivers think that other drivers can see them better than with no lights at all and that's where the problem is. There are no DRL's on the BACK of the car so people coming up behind you will find you just as hard to see as before.

Think of driving in heavy rain and kicking up a good spray at the back. That can make your car mostly invisible to those behind. As the driver thinks he's being seen, he won't turn on the rear fog lamp which would also mean turning on at least the parking lamps/sidelamps thus negating the DRL's.

That's like saying abs is more dangerous than non abs cars as people drive faster and brake later......

Or esp makes people corner faster....


Its down to morons given driving licences having been taught to pass a test rather than gaining experience i learned to drive over 12 months and experienced driving in snow fog at night et all


Whilst we are at it lets replace air bags with spikes people won't want to crash then!

raton_laveur said:

DRL's are actually more dangerous than not having them.

Why?

They give a false sense of security. I've seen lots of people driving in low visibility conditions with DRL's, which are of course automatic. The drivers think that other drivers can see them better than with no lights at all and that's where the problem is. There are no DRL's on the BACK of the car so people coming up behind you will find you just as hard to see as before.

Think of driving in heavy rain and kicking up a good spray at the back. That can make your car mostly invisible to those behind. As the driver thinks he's being seen, he won't turn on the rear fog lamp which would also mean turning on at least the parking lamps/sidelamps thus negating the DRL's.

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Sorry but you really haven't a clue what you're on about! Tail lamps will not be enough with heavy spray and fog lamps are nessecary anyway!

More colissions happen due to not seeing the front of the car over not seeing the rear!

Actually, I do have a clue. Quite a few of them as a matter of fact. Something to do with being a driver for close to 50 years and a million miles.

What you didn't figure out is that I was implying that cars should also have DRL's on the rear as well as on the front.

raton_laveur said:

What you didn't figure out is that I was implying that cars should also have DRL's on the rear as well as on the front.

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But your reason / example doesn't really justify them on the rear.

raton_laveur said:

What you didn't figure out is that I was implying that cars should also have DRL's on the rear as well as on the front.

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2 Cars on a country road under trees..... Both going in different directions closing speed circa 120mph ....

2 cars on the same road going the same way one travelling at 40mph the other at 60mph closing speed circa 20 mph... The driver from behind should have more than enough time to react to a 20mph difference..



But you could paint all cars yellow blue and red fit great big high intensity LED strobe lights to the roof and back window..

http://gooletimes.info/driver-jailed-for-crash-that-killed-goole-policeman-p485-1.htm



And if you can get morons to run up the back of these.. nothing will save you.....

I'll quote myself for starters...

"Think of driving in heavy rain and kicking up a good spray at the back. That can make your car mostly invisible to those behind. As the driver thinks he's being seen, he won't turn on the rear fog lamp which would also mean turning on at least the parking lamps/sidelamps thus negating the DRL's."

In France (less than an hour from where I live) and perhaps in other European countries, it is forbidden to use your rear foglamp(s) in heavy rain. You can only use it/them in fog or heavy snow. Also, try driving on a motorway directly into a bright and setting sun. The backs of the cars in front of you are nearly invisible in that situation because of the fact they are in deep shadow and glare from the sun. Because the sun is burning brightly in their faces in this situation, most drivers would never dream of turning on any lights, mush the less the rear fog lights.

Front DRL's are brighter than front side lights and rear red DRL's would be brighter than rear sidelights (tail lights) for those that are legally prevented from using their rear fog lights when conditions dictate and for those who are not clever enough to use them when not prevented. I realize that rear DRL's aren't the complete solution but they are far better than the solution we have at the moment, which is no solution at all.

And it seems that most of you on here have never driven on German autobahns and don't realize that every little bit of visibility helps. The car coming up behind you may be going 100 MPH faster (or more) than you are and the driver may not necessarily be prudent in times of reduced visibility. Think about it.

raton_laveur said:

And it seems that most of you on here have never driven on German autobahns and don't realize that every little bit of visibility helps.

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I have.

What you seem to be forgetting its that a 5 watt tail lamp marker is NOT going to be vissible, even if switched on in the scenario's you've given. This is the point I'm making about it being pointless.

Just think, front DRL's are not little 5 watt wedge bulbs for the same reason, because during the day / heavy rain they would not be visible.