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Old 01-05-2005   #1
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How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

Is it fresh, mucky, or just plain disgusting
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

Totaally black, cars getting old at 10 years now. I do an oil change every 5k miles. And its been black ever time, so can only imagine is dont take long to go black after 1k miles
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

it dont go black on older cars if you flush engine out with a 50/50 mix of petrol and clean cheep oil during changing
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

Most diesel cars would be black after 1,000 miles.
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

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it dont go black on older cars if you flush engine out with a 50/50 mix of petrol and clean cheep oil during changing
Or if messing with petrol is abit too dangerous, i think you can pick up them engine flush cans from halfords for around £3. Its meant to be really good.
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

problem is.. you wash the coke / carbon deposits out of an old engine and it might not thank you for it..
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

Mine comes out spotless every time, and that's from an 80,000 mile engine. I service it roughly every 4000 miles/6 months, and I never use any oil other than Castrol GTX.
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

Mine only gets changed every 12 months or 18K miles.
Mind you it's only had one oil change at about 14K miles after 12 months and it looked pretty clean on the dipstick. It is fully synthetic I believe.

I don't think it is worth changing it more often.
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

One of the apparent problems of flushing a turbocharged car is that the loosened deposits can then flow through the turbo, which only has a relatively narrow oil feed pipe. If this gets blocked then it can starve the turbo of oil. Which would be bad.
Mine's fairly black after 1000 miles. Pretty bad at a 6000 mile change.
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

Quote Originally Posted by poggy
I don't think it is worth changing it more often.
oo it is its the life blood of your engine
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oo it is its the life blood of your engine
I agree. This is the single most important thing that keeps your car alive I think. I always change the oil and filter at half the recommended interval. I'd rather spend £50 on oil (yes it costs that much for the coop) than pay the costs associated with premature engine wear.
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

Why would they recommend an amount of time which would damage the engine? I expect a car may get away with 36k but they halve it just incase.

Modern diesel engines have service intervals of 18k.....
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Why would they recommend an amount of time which would damage the engine? I expect a car may get away with 36k but they halve it just incase.

Modern diesel engines have service intervals of 18k.....
they dont test the cars for 150k miles before relese do they? i think they just gess
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

It's a cost vs benefit argument I suppose.

The engine is probably going to last several 100K miles if it is regulary serviced. An extra oil change in addition will probably reduce wear, but as the rest of the car is wearing anyway, it probably isn't worth it because you will have to start changing all manner of things.

The synthetic oil is also quite expensive and the extra 11 changes for every 6,000 on a 100,000 life would be £550.00 (£50 a time for oil/filter). Seems a lot for what is probably a small amount of engine wear protection. Synthetic oil does a lot to reduce the wear when the engine first starts up from cold, so it would probably be better to switch to fully synthetic rather than standard oil, rather than just add more changes (or change the oil type between winter & summer). The Castrol synthetic stuff is 4 times better than standard oil for lubricating from start up, it is also a longer life oil as well.

You also need to keep the car for a long period of time before you get any benefit from the extra changes.
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Re: How clean is your oil after 1000 miles?

They probably do actually. Although in a lab...

Seriously though, if you follow the correct service intervals for a scenic Dci which I assume is the same for the JTD fiat range, you only have to say hi every 18k.
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