I am not that excited about having new plates on my car , but some people are , and it affects the resale value. No other reason. If some unforseen circumstance meant I had to sell the car next year it would be valued more with 59 than 09.

For the sake of waiting a week .

jnoiles said:

I will never, even if I live to be a 100, understand what this demented fascination for the latest number plate is. Seriously. Who gives a ****? You bought the car to enjoy. Go enjoy it.

Is there really a whole subculture of people who sit in the driveway getting excited about what plate they have?

Can anyone point me to a single case where their life was better, more fulfilled or greatly enhanced by having a plate issue next month as opposed to this month? Especially when its applied to a car that was built last month or the month before.

Please? Someone explain this to me.

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Beating the Joneses

One thing that seems strange to me is people who buy older design cars brand new, I've seen recently cars like Vectras that were designed 7 years ago on 09 and the like plates.

I personally wouldn't fork out new car prices for old tech if you know what I mean. I'm not impressed by the new plates, just curious why they didn't buy the Insignia.

Dan89 said:

...just curious why they didn't buy the Insignia.

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Because unsold models that have been replaced are almost invariably massively discounted by the manufacturers.

When the new Mondeo came out in 2000 Ford were selling, for example, unregistered prior model 2.0 16v Zetec S models for under £10k, over £5k cheaper than a new model 1.8 LX, which is why you see both shape cars on X plates.

Scrogg said:

Because unsold models that have been replaced are almost invariably massively discounted by the manufacturers.

When the new Mondeo came out in 2000 Ford were selling, for example, unregistered prior model 2.0 16v Zetec S models for under £10k, over £5k cheaper than a new model 1.8 LX, which is why you see both shape cars on X plates.

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Ah didn't realise it might be so much, so what will the dealer be taking home? Guess that's not much fun for the dealers to have to do that.

I would guess it depends on the (if any) terms of the deal. I see plenty of small print that states "Applies only to cars registered before *****".

Dan89 said:

Ah didn't realise it might be so much, so what will the dealer be taking home? Guess that's not much fun for the dealers to have to do that.

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It doesn't bother the dealers, as the discounts are paid for by the manufacturers.

In fact, the dealers like it, as it means they sell even more cars.

Scrogg said:

It doesn't bother the dealers, as the discounts are paid for by the manufacturers.

In fact, the dealers like it, as it means they sell even more cars.

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Ah I get it

sledge said:

I would guess it depends on the (if any) terms of the deal. I see plenty of small print that states "Applies only to cars registered before *****".

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That only happens when there is a part-exchange involved, as the dealer is within its rights to reduce their offer if they do not receive the car in the agreed month, and/or if there is a manufacturer offer on the new car which runs out at the end of the month.

As this is about a 500 (with no manufacturer offer) sold under the Scrappage Scheme (which will still be running in September) they have no grounds for trying to force humptybob to take delivery in August.

Sorry to disagree with the main view in responses, but HUMPTYBOB says in his first thread that the 10 weeks / 24 August was the delivery date agreed in the order when placed.

So, sadly I do not think that HUMPTYBOB has the right to insist on the delay in delivery by one week. The agreed delivery date would be part of the contract, and this is a two-way thing, the dealer is obliged to provide the car at the agreed date and price, and the customer is obliged to receive and pay accordingly.

That said, most reasonable Dealers should be receptive to the one week delay in the interest of good customer service etc. if a polite request is made by the customer. A good Dealer should really have pointed this out and suggested the extra week at the time of order.

But there could be other factors, such as if HUMPTYBOB pressed for an earlier delivery if at all possible when placing the order, or if the car was offered with extra discount for taking in August rather than September...

Scrogg said:

That's different.

You have entered into a contract to buy the car, and the dealership has paid Fiat in full for it on your behalf, so why should they be out of pocket just because you don't want to take delivery until the month after it arrives?

Most dealerships have very little in the way of cash reserves, so waiting to be paid for cars they have paid for can cause them problems. They can't tell Fiat, or their staff, or there utilities providers, or their landlords (if they rent their premises) etc they will pay them next month...

Some dealerships won't register a new car until it is paid for by the customer, and it is only a matter of time before that becomes the norm.

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so do you think I should pay the dealer on the agreed date (tomorrow) even if I wait another week for the new registration?

humptybob said:

so do you think I should pay the dealer on the agreed date (tomorrow) even if I wait another week for the new registration?

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Offering to do that certainly wouldn't hurt your cause.

Speak to your dealership tomorrow, tell them you would like to take delivery on a 59 plate and see what they say. Chances are they will be happy for you to do so and you will have worried over nothing.

If they do still insist you take it on an 09 you could always 'forget' to get them an insurance cover note until a week on Tuesday

Dealer making excuses not to hold new 500 for another week for 59 plate

I can't seem to post on my previous thread about this.
Ordered a 500 in july with estimated delivery 24 August.(tomorrow)

Due to this forum I considered this date fictional. However car is indeed ready for collection tomorrow but I would rather wait one more week for 59 plate .

Spoke to dealer today and he gave me some flannel about this not being possible, something to do with the scrappage deal being "allocated to this month and can't be changed" . Also something about them now having the car so it is available to sell in August so if I want a 59 they will have to place a brand new order!

The boss is going to phone me tomorrow.

Can anyone offer further advice?

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why not? Its here.......

https://www.fiatforum.com/lets-talk...-my-car-till-sept-1st-before-registering.html

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TBH if the deposit was paid on the basis of delivery for 24-Aug, and the dealer can meet this, I really do think the deal should be completed as agreed.

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Not sure why you can't post in your other thread. I've just tried and it will allow me

But anyway, the line about the scrappage money being allocated for this month is utter crap. As long as you take delivery within 4 months of placing your order your allocation stands.

As I have already said, offer to pay for the car in full tomorrow, then they have sold it in August.

Stick to your guns. You will win

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not sure about that, sales figures were based on registrations, for the dealers I have audited.

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pearce_jj said:

not sure about that, sales figures were based on registrations, for the dealers I have audited.

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Yes they are, but as Fiat are telling some of their dealers not to register any more cars this month as they are worried they will impact negatively on their September figures it's a dead cert they don't need this one for target.

The dealership may, but knowing how Fiat pay their target bonuses, and how many qualifying retail units they have registered this month, not registering this particular car will have no negative impact on them either.

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You work for the dealer in question?

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Scrogg said:

Not sure why you can't post in your other thread. I've just tried and it will allow me

But anyway, the line about the scrappage money being allocated for this month is utter crap. As long as you take delivery within 4 months of placing your order your allocation stands.

As I have already said, offer to pay for the car in full tomorrow, then they have sold it in August.

Stick to your guns. You will win

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Thanks again scrogg and others. I am not sure what happened there with my computer as I can now access the original thread
Offering to pay tomorrow seems a fair idea.

many thanks again , all

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pearce_jj said:

You work for the dealer in question?

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I don't know, he hasn't actually said which dealer it is, and his profile doesn't show where he lives.