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View Poll Results: Are Fiat doing the right thing trying to buy GM Europe?
Yes, it'll be good for Fiat 5 31.25%
Yes, it'll be good for GM Europe 0 0%
Yes, it'll be good for the workers 0 0%
Yes, it'll be good for the European car industry 4 25.00%
Yes, it'll be good for their customers 2 12.50%
No, it's a huge blunder 8 50.00%
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Old 31-05-2009   #16
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Re: Should Fiat buy Opel/Vauxhall?

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...and stick a flat 6 turbo in a re-revival of the Seicento
Well they could keep the Porker badge for the 911, rebadge (and re-body ) the real mid engined ones as Alfas, and rename that 4x4 thing the Lancia PorcaMadonna!
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Re: Should Fiat buy Opel/Vauxhall?

No. It is bad for the Fiat itself.
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Well they could keep the Porker badge for the 911, rebadge (and re-body ) the real mid engined ones as Alfas, and rename that 4x4 thing the Lancia PorcaMadonna!


Same sh*t, new wrapping.
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Re: Should Fiat buy Opel/Vauxhall?

i'm quite happy Fiats deal to buy GM Europe didn't come through. Fiat itself is only back on its feet after years of losses & mis managament, the last thing they needed was the burden of Opel/Vauxhall & SAAB!! Plus reports suggest that full financial details weren't forthcoming from GM on how healthy its European wing was, so Fiat were right to back out of the deal.

Fiat are going to have enough on their hands trying to turn Chrysler around (that deal BTW i think is a stroke of pure genius!), Fiat in my humble opinion couldn't have afforded GM Europe too!
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Re: Should Fiat buy Opel/Vauxhall?

Fiat are not looking to turn around chrysler but simply looking for a already purpose made launch pad to enter the states. As for GM, I think the writing is on the wall.
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Re: Should Fiat buy Opel/Vauxhall?

FIAT doesn't know how lucky it was to get off the GME hook.

Opel/Vauxhall cars tend to be ugly and unconfortable. If the response was to make them more like FIATS, there would be no point in having seperate brands. On the other hand, I'm sure that FIAT could learn a few things about build quality from Opel.

SAAB hasn't made a profit in 20 years. Although there is some commonality with Opel, they can't keep going forever like that. It's time to pull the plug and Fiat would have been the bad guy for doing it. Let someone else take the heat.

So there's some Russian money involved with Magna? I thought they only wanted a manufacture as a sure source of future sales of its components. I don't know about the UK, but if you see fuel stations with the name LUK, those are also Russian.
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Re: Should Fiat buy Opel/Vauxhall?

I have to agree, I'm glad it fell though. Only because I hate Vauxhalls.
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I have to agree, I'm glad it fell though. Only because I hate Vauxhalls.
So do I
Im not sure if that was a good opportunity...
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Re: Should Fiat buy Opel/Vauxhall?

It seemed like the only thing Fiat would get from GM is bigger cars. In these days of recession and high fuel prices, Fiat are better sticking to the cars they make best.

Do you know who the most econominal major car manufacturer is? Is it Toyota with their Prius, Honda with their Insight? No, it is Fiat, with an excellent range of small cars, and a fantastic average economy across the range!
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