Fiat to take over Opel & Vauxhall?

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Fiat to take over Opel & Vauxhall?

buying vauxhaul would be a big mistake as they're direct competitors

Hardly, they work together on alot of stuff now anyway. Would mean better economies of scale for them, would be able to pinch the underpinnings of the insignia for quick alfas and get alot of other parts off them aswell.
 
9 years ago GM owned a fair chunk of Fiat s.p.a, Fiat then divorced from them years later taking 'em for quite a bit of money - now Fiat is looking to buy GM or Chrysler :D
 
But the GP is the same chassis as the new corsa.

Agreed but the corsa feels alot more solid, poised, sharp. The chasis feels stiffer and so does the suspension resulting in a more involving drive. I think fiat could learn a lot from vauxhall engineers about suspension setups and handling.

I must admit fiat have got it spot on with the range of engines especially T-Jet and M-Jet.

As you can probably tell i'm quite a fan of vauxhall and me and my family have always had vauxhall's.

Im not trying to have a dig at fiat cos i do love my GPS i just wish some things were different.
 
vx are hardly a direct competitor
their range dwarfs the fiat line up so they only compete on a few models
Fiat's model range is just as large, if not larger than Opel/Vauxhall's, though the range we see in the UK is limited.

Fiat is bigger than Opel/Vauxhall, and sell more cars than they do.
 
I think fiat could learn a lot from vauxhall engineers about suspension setups and handling.

Erm have you driven an astra or vectra VXR ? :p
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjH5ZnoNA6E"]YouTube - Hot hatchbacks: VW Golf, Renault Megane, Vauxhall Astra - Top Gear - BBC autos[/nomedia]
 
Personally I can only really see a point in taking over Chrysler in as much as it gives them access to a vast new market and a ready-made dealer network. With regard to GM(E), the market is no bigger and they would have to get rid of some dealers For how long would they be able to keep all those factories running? They'll end up taking on the factories and the debt then have to shut a big chunk of the joint manufacturing capacity and pay out hundreds of millions in redundancy payments.

At the end of all that they'll end up so far in debt they'll end up like Rover being taken over by a Chinese company and have most of the manufacturing carried out over there.
 

LOL(y). Theres a video that i would like to find a link to, from Topgear, where Jeremy tested the Opel vectra top of the range vs. the Mazda 6 MPS, and the ford focus sedan. He says Vectra is the 4rth fastest 4door saloon, even faster than an M5. Anyway you guys should see how pathetic the Vectras handling is. He would go into a corner and turn full lock and the Vectra would just carry on straight. Thats scary to think that such a fast car has bad handling:eek: like that. After seeing that i hope Fiat doesn't put Opel suspensions in if they do buy out Opel Lol!

It's from [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Series 8 Episode 6[/FONT] [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]16 July 2006.
[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Main Review: Jeremy tests 3 hot saloons; the Ford Mondeo ST220, the Mazda 6 MPS and the Vauxhall Vectra VXR. The Mondeo achieves a laptime of 1:34.4, while the Mazda 6 an even better 1:32.2. Despite being the fastest car with a 161mph top speed, the Vectra can only manage a time of 1:35.5 due to 'catastrophic' understeer.[/FONT]
 
Vauxhall only exists today as a brand name - all their products are Opels. If this new Fiat/Opel company gets off the ground it will be the death knell for that brand name within a year, I predict. (n) Sad, but then it's sad we don't have Austin, Morris, Standard, Triumph, Wolseley, Riley, Hillman, Singer, Humber, Sunbeam etc. either.
I just hope Fiat/Opel does not end up with the worst of each brand's characteristics instead of the best. :eek:
 
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