Fiat Relationships?

Bushboy · 21-10-2004

whast the relationship with fiat and alfa, lancia, ferrari etc. apart from the fact that they are italian!

dunno where but i heard that alot of alfas cars are bassed on fiat cars (plus alot of them look very similar but with alfas unique styling (eg, the alfa that looks remarkably like the coup, and isnt one of the alfas based on the stilo but with a diff engine?)

just wondering

dave · 21-10-2004

lancia, ferrari are fiats not sure about alfas but they might be fiats aswell

Nuova500 · 21-10-2004

All those companies were individual manufacturers originally. Gradually Fiat took control of Lancia then Alfa. Ferrari are under the Fiat umbrella but not wholly owned by them. Maserati are under control from Ferrari and Lambo by the VW group. Basically, Fiat own nearly everything now!

Alex · 21-10-2004

err.... doesn't the italian government own most of FIAT anyway..? Oh, and Alitalia, and most things Italian?

Dr_Pepper · 21-10-2004

It's complicated!

Fiat Auto owns Lancia, Fiat and Alfa.

Fiat Group owns Fiat Auto, and Ferrari, and Iveco (Trucks) and New Holland (Tractors) and loads of other stuff motor and non-motor related.

Ferrari is 90% owned by Fiat Group (not Fiat Auto) and 10% by the Ferrari Family and private shareholders.

Maserati is 50% owned by Fiat Auto and 50% owned by Ferrari (which is owned by Fiat Group. Work that one out!)

Fiat Auto is 20% owned by General Motors and 80% by Fiat Group.

Fiat Group is a PLC of which the Italian Government has shares but the Agnelli family retains a controlling share and therefore runs the company.

roby76it · 21-10-2004

Originally Posted by Alex

err.... doesn't the italian government own most of FIAT anyway..? Oh, and Alitalia, and most things Italian?

Italian governament don't has any stocks of Fiat... Fiat is 100% a private company and controlled by Agnelli family...

Fiat isn't only cars...

Fiat Group:

-CNH
NewHolland
Fiat Kobelco
Steyr
-Iveco-Irisbus
-Magneti Marelli
-Comau
-Teksid

some products:

Fiat Kobelco

EX455

D150

Fiat New Holland

Fiat Iveco

Stralis

Fiat Ferroviaria

ETR 500

ETR 500, ETR 470

Fiat Iveco Irisbus

CITYCLASS

EUROCLASS

Alitalia today don't exist... Italian governament controls Finmeccanica a big public company that controls also Alenia Aeronautica: a company that makes aircrafts and space modules...

i.e. Some parts of the new fighter Typhoon are designed and assembled by Alenia Spazio...

roby76it · 21-10-2004

Originally Posted by Bushboy

whast the relationship with fiat and alfa, lancia, ferrari etc. apart from the fact that they are italian!

dunno where but i heard that alot of alfas cars are bassed on fiat cars (plus alot of them look very similar but with alfas unique styling (eg, the alfa that looks remarkably like the coup, and isnt one of the alfas based on the stilo but with a diff engine?)

just wondering

Fiat Auto owns

Lancia 100%
Alfa Romeo 100%
Abarth 100%
Innocenti 100%
Autobianchi 100%

the last three don't exist today...

Ferrari was 100% Fiat up to some months ago, they sold the 34% of it to Mediobanca for money to invest in new models....
However at this time Ferrari is controlled by Fiat Auto...

Maserati is 100% Ferrari...

Lamborghini is 100% Volkswagen....

roby76it · 22-10-2004

Originally Posted by Bushboy

whast the relationship with fiat and alfa, lancia, ferrari etc. apart from the fact that they are italian!

dunno where but i heard that alot of alfas cars are bassed on fiat cars (plus alot of them look very similar but with alfas unique styling (eg, the alfa that looks remarkably like the coup, and isnt one of the alfas based on the stilo but with a diff engine?)

just wondering

Alfa shares some parts with Fiat models... but only some small components...
platforms Fiat and platforms Alfa Romeo are quite different!!!

i.e. Stilo and 147 are two different cars!!!!

GhostWKD · 22-10-2004

lambo is vw?

roby76it · 22-10-2004

Originally Posted by GhostWKD

lambo is vw?

Yes...

GhostWKD · 22-10-2004

sorry, i just never knew that, learn something new every day lol

Liam · 22-10-2004

Never mind that, what do you think will happen when I ask my local Fiat Dealer for a test drive and payment example for the Fiat Train!!!

Liam

Cinq_Sport_BiG_DaVE · 22-10-2004

didnt no fiat made busses and lorries

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...e=STRK:MESE:IT

BUY NOW

Nuova500 · 22-10-2004

fiat make those crap Pendolino trains that run from euston... the old BR APT that the tories pulled funding from was far superior, so not everything Fiat is good!!!
Roby, have Fiat ever had their fingers in Piaggio? Its just that I heard an Agnelli owned them...

jamie86 · 22-10-2004

Isn't the Alfa GTV the same Floorpan as the Coupe?

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dave Get Your Own Title Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex/Suffolk border Posts: 83,001 Thanks: 1465 Trader Rating: 10	Re: Fiat Relationships? lancia, ferrari are fiats not sure about alfas but they might be fiats aswell __________________ “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.”
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Nuova500 Czech It Out! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Milton, United Kingdo Posts: 5,660 Thanks: 76 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Fiat Relationships? All those companies were individual manufacturers originally. Gradually Fiat took control of Lancia then Alfa. Ferrari are under the Fiat umbrella but not wholly owned by them. Maserati are under control from Ferrari and Lambo by the VW group. Basically, Fiat own nearly everything now! __________________ Ex 500 Owner! Ive even bought a Pug for the wife!!!
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Alex Now hacking in PHP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: At Home Posts: 1,497 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Fiat Relationships? err.... doesn't the italian government own most of FIAT anyway..? Oh, and Alitalia, and most things Italian? __________________ http://www.revone.co.uk/Monaco2007/SIG.jpg FIAT Forum Monaco 2007 F1 Trip Info Website
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Dr_Pepper What's the worst that can happen? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Essex, UK. Posts: 1,014 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 1	Re: Fiat Relationships? It's complicated! Fiat Auto owns Lancia, Fiat and Alfa. Fiat Group owns Fiat Auto, and Ferrari, and Iveco (Trucks) and New Holland (Tractors) and loads of other stuff motor and non-motor related. Ferrari is 90% owned by Fiat Group (not Fiat Auto) and 10% by the Ferrari Family and private shareholders. Maserati is 50% owned by Fiat Auto and 50% owned by Ferrari (which is owned by Fiat Group. Work that one out!) Fiat Auto is 20% owned by General Motors and 80% by Fiat Group. Fiat Group is a PLC of which the Italian Government has shares but the Agnelli family retains a controlling share and therefore runs the company. __________________ "The new rules are very simple. The FIA will keep them to themselves until such a time as Ferrari needs them" - Patrick Head Last edited by Dr_Pepper; 21-10-2004 at 23:37.
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roby76it Get Your Own Title Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Torino, Italy. Posts: 380 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Fiat Relationships? Originally Posted by Alex err.... doesn't the italian government own most of FIAT anyway..? Oh, and Alitalia, and most things Italian? Italian governament don't has any stocks of Fiat... Fiat is 100% a private company and controlled by Agnelli family... Fiat isn't only cars... Fiat Group: -CNH NewHolland Fiat Kobelco Steyr -Iveco-Irisbus -Magneti Marelli -Comau -Teksid some products: Fiat Kobelco EX455 D150 Fiat New Holland Fiat Iveco Stralis Fiat Ferroviaria ETR 500 ETR 500, ETR 470 Fiat Iveco Irisbus CITYCLASS EUROCLASS Alitalia today don't exist... Italian governament controls Finmeccanica a big public company that controls also Alenia Aeronautica: a company that makes aircrafts and space modules... i.e. Some parts of the new fighter Typhoon are designed and assembled by Alenia Spazio... __________________ [B]Campioni del mondo!!!... [/B]:thumb: [IMG]http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8886/italiacampioni8cf.gif[/IMG]
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roby76it Get Your Own Title Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Torino, Italy. Posts: 380 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Fiat Relationships? Originally Posted by Bushboy whast the relationship with fiat and alfa, lancia, ferrari etc. apart from the fact that they are italian! dunno where but i heard that alot of alfas cars are bassed on fiat cars (plus alot of them look very similar but with alfas unique styling (eg, the alfa that looks remarkably like the coup, and isnt one of the alfas based on the stilo but with a diff engine?) just wondering Alfa shares some parts with Fiat models... but only some small components... platforms Fiat and platforms Alfa Romeo are quite different!!! i.e. Stilo and 147 are two different cars!!!! __________________ [B]Campioni del mondo!!!... [/B]:thumb: [IMG]http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8886/italiacampioni8cf.gif[/IMG]
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Liam hi friends :waves: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 16 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Fiat Relationships? Never mind that, what do you think will happen when I ask my local Fiat Dealer for a test drive and payment example for the Fiat Train!!! Liam __________________ Yes it's really me! 97 Cinq Sporting-RIP 09/10/06 BYE OLD FRIEND
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Nuova500 Czech It Out! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Milton, United Kingdo Posts: 5,660 Thanks: 76 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Fiat Relationships? fiat make those crap Pendolino trains that run from euston... the old BR APT that the tories pulled funding from was far superior, so not everything Fiat is good!!! Roby, have Fiat ever had their fingers in Piaggio? Its just that I heard an Agnelli owned them... __________________ Ex 500 Owner! Ive even bought a Pug for the wife!!!
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jamie86 Funny saying here Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Near Bath Posts: 6,130 Thanks: 24 Trader Rating: 1	Re: Fiat Relationships? Isn't the Alfa GTV the same Floorpan as the Coupe? __________________ Originally Posted by A wise person Mini invented the giant killer, VW started the genre, Ford & Vauxhall Desecrated it, but the Peugeot 205 GTi was undoubtedly the king of the breed.
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