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Fiat Relationships?

whast the relationship with fiat and alfa, lancia, ferrari etc. apart from the fact that they are italian!

dunno where but i heard that alot of alfas cars are bassed on fiat cars (plus alot of them look very similar but with alfas unique styling (eg, the alfa that looks remarkably like the coup, and isnt one of the alfas based on the stilo but with a diff engine?)

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lancia, ferrari are fiats not sure about alfas but they might be fiats aswell
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All those companies were individual manufacturers originally. Gradually Fiat took control of Lancia then Alfa. Ferrari are under the Fiat umbrella but not wholly owned by them. Maserati are under control from Ferrari and Lambo by the VW group. Basically, Fiat own nearly everything now!
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err.... doesn't the italian government own most of FIAT anyway..? Oh, and Alitalia, and most things Italian?
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It's complicated!

Fiat Auto owns Lancia, Fiat and Alfa.

Fiat Group owns Fiat Auto, and Ferrari, and Iveco (Trucks) and New Holland (Tractors) and loads of other stuff motor and non-motor related.

Ferrari is 90% owned by Fiat Group (not Fiat Auto) and 10% by the Ferrari Family and private shareholders.

Maserati is 50% owned by Fiat Auto and 50% owned by Ferrari (which is owned by Fiat Group. Work that one out!)

Fiat Auto is 20% owned by General Motors and 80% by Fiat Group.

Fiat Group is a PLC of which the Italian Government has shares but the Agnelli family retains a controlling share and therefore runs the company.
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err.... doesn't the italian government own most of FIAT anyway..? Oh, and Alitalia, and most things Italian?
Italian governament don't has any stocks of Fiat... Fiat is 100% a private company and controlled by Agnelli family...

Fiat isn't only cars...

Fiat Group:

-CNH
NewHolland
Fiat Kobelco
Steyr
-Iveco-Irisbus
-Magneti Marelli
-Comau
-Teksid

some products:

Fiat Kobelco



EX455




D150


Fiat New Holland





Fiat Iveco





Stralis

Fiat Ferroviaria



ETR 500



ETR 500, ETR 470



Fiat Iveco Irisbus



CITYCLASS



EUROCLASS



Alitalia today don't exist... Italian governament controls Finmeccanica a big public company that controls also Alenia Aeronautica: a company that makes aircrafts and space modules...

i.e. Some parts of the new fighter Typhoon are designed and assembled by Alenia Spazio...

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Quote Originally Posted by Bushboy
whast the relationship with fiat and alfa, lancia, ferrari etc. apart from the fact that they are italian!

dunno where but i heard that alot of alfas cars are bassed on fiat cars (plus alot of them look very similar but with alfas unique styling (eg, the alfa that looks remarkably like the coup, and isnt one of the alfas based on the stilo but with a diff engine?)

just wondering
Fiat Auto owns

Lancia 100%
Alfa Romeo 100%
Abarth 100%
Innocenti 100%
Autobianchi 100%

the last three don't exist today...

Ferrari was 100% Fiat up to some months ago, they sold the 34% of it to Mediobanca for money to invest in new models....
However at this time Ferrari is controlled by Fiat Auto...

Maserati is 100% Ferrari...

Lamborghini is 100% Volkswagen....
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Quote Originally Posted by Bushboy
whast the relationship with fiat and alfa, lancia, ferrari etc. apart from the fact that they are italian!

dunno where but i heard that alot of alfas cars are bassed on fiat cars (plus alot of them look very similar but with alfas unique styling (eg, the alfa that looks remarkably like the coup, and isnt one of the alfas based on the stilo but with a diff engine?)

just wondering
Alfa shares some parts with Fiat models... but only some small components...
platforms Fiat and platforms Alfa Romeo are quite different!!!

i.e. Stilo and 147 are two different cars!!!!
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lambo is vw?
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lambo is vw?
Yes...
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sorry, i just never knew that, learn something new every day lol
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Never mind that, what do you think will happen when I ask my local Fiat Dealer for a test drive and payment example for the Fiat Train!!!

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didnt no fiat made busses and lorries

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fiat make those crap Pendolino trains that run from euston... the old BR APT that the tories pulled funding from was far superior, so not everything Fiat is good!!!
Roby, have Fiat ever had their fingers in Piaggio? Its just that I heard an Agnelli owned them...
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Isn't the Alfa GTV the same Floorpan as the Coupe?
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