NumanR
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Tomato, Potato, Bravo, ok got it now lol
New Brava Model Training and Testing
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New Brava Model Training and Testing
Ozric-Al
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no the tech is right, its fiat that have got it wrong, count the doors its a brava
So very true. lol
no the tech is right, its fiat that have got it wrong, count the doors its a brava
buy that man a pint
Would be nice if they did a three door!
I will be changing cars in a couple of years for a newie hopefully!
I will be changing cars in a couple of years for a newie hopefully!
is it just top techs gone or has little pip and madmax127 gone to?
NumanR
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OK guys, just got back from the BravO testing session and introduction, and my god its a bloody nice car. Heres a few facts and pics.
5 engines at launch, 1.4 16 valve 90bhp, 1.4 16 valve turbo 120 bhp, 1.4 16 valve turbo 150bhp, 1.9 diesel turbo 120 bhp, and 1.9 16 valve 150 bhp. A 1.6 mjtd will be added after launch. 18,000 mile service intervals. Trim is listed as Bravo, Active, Dynamic, Elegance, and Sport. Disc brakes fitted all round, with Bosch 8.1 ABS systems. Suspension is macpherson strut at the front with semi independant beam at the rear. Lane change indicators fitted to all models (tap indicator stalk and the flashers flash three times for motorway lane changes and overtaking). Cornering lighting is included with all models with front fogs, this switches on the corresponding fog light when headlights are on dip beam and vehicle is travelling below 25 mph. Blue and me, Blue and me Nav and connect Nav are all options.
5 engines at launch, 1.4 16 valve 90bhp, 1.4 16 valve turbo 120 bhp, 1.4 16 valve turbo 150bhp, 1.9 diesel turbo 120 bhp, and 1.9 16 valve 150 bhp. A 1.6 mjtd will be added after launch. 18,000 mile service intervals. Trim is listed as Bravo, Active, Dynamic, Elegance, and Sport. Disc brakes fitted all round, with Bosch 8.1 ABS systems. Suspension is macpherson strut at the front with semi independant beam at the rear. Lane change indicators fitted to all models (tap indicator stalk and the flashers flash three times for motorway lane changes and overtaking). Cornering lighting is included with all models with front fogs, this switches on the corresponding fog light when headlights are on dip beam and vehicle is travelling below 25 mph. Blue and me, Blue and me Nav and connect Nav are all options.
NumanR
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If someone can let me email some vids and pics then you will be able to see s few bits and bobs i took today.
NumanR
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None, we had several competitors cars to compare the cars to and to be perfectly honest the bravo blitzed them all, we were very impressed. The car is very solidly built, is very stable, much quieter than Stilo and had no rattles, squeaks etc. Brakes are very good without grabbing etc. The cars had not been pdi'd and had been transported to the venue so most of the cars had only a couple of miles on the clock. The interior is very smart and not at all dull. The engines are very good, and the whole cabin feels very well built. The car has been very well thought through and sound proofing is high on the list of Fiats priorities. Highly recommended! Just going to see if I can get one!
and speedgear or autos ? you can stick photos and video in the gallery
Wow, a blazing review
Let's hope Fiat did get this right and that over time this model prove itself to be less problematic than the GP ey?
TroyO
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What are the new turbo petrol engines like?
Troy.
Troy.
apparently they lack torque and need to be driven hard. the reviews dont make them sound very promising. a turbo has never been a good alternative to extra capacity so this was half expected, but i'm still disappointed.
the turbo diesel gets much better reviews. given the choice i think this would be a more sensible option.
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oooooh yeah
Semi-independent? Isn't that a step back from the fully independent trailing arms on my Tipo and Marea?
Cause clicking the stalk back is so much work
So if I drive below 25mph weaving left/right I'll be flashing my fog lights?
Ozric-Al
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Just like a true FIAT should be.
When I saw the Bravo at Brooklands I was also very impressed with the build quality and the interior is a cracker! The only slight issue I saw was that the parcel shelf was very flimsy and I would bet that 6 months down the line it will be rattling away like a goodun. Will be happy to be proved wrong though.
TroyO
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Semi-independent? Isn't that a step back from the fully independent trailing arms on my Tipo and Marea?
The suspension setup is carried over from the Stilo apparently.
Sounds like a bigger capacity engine is needed given the car's size. But it might be good match for the Grande Punto and 500.
I don't want a Fiat with a ultra narrow power band and that sounds like a tractor. The diesels just don't have sporty feel (or power delivery).
Troy.
Oh no
Have you driven a Fiat diesel? Ever since the Tipo TD SX they have always been sporty. The power band may well be narrow but the torque band is huge. Petrols only have power high up in revs and are usually gutless below 2000rpm.
I'd rather pay 50% of the running costs for 95% of the performance.
TroyO
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One, the Grande Punto Sporting (GP is the sole diesel Fiat car ever sold in Aust.), but I have driven a few of PSA's current diesel engines. They are all impressive in terms of their bottom end torque and their fuel economy. Great for chugging along in the traffic but not so great for caning it through the twisties. They run out of puff too early in the rev range, they provide the aural pleasure of a Transit van. Ever driven an old Lampredi twin cam powered Fiat (124 Sport/Spider, Strada Abarth for example)? That would give you idea of what I mean.
Troy.
oh cant wait for the my new bravo spring just snapped threads
i take it there 1.4 turbo lumps are still fire engines? hope so low mileage one of them in from a right off be good in a panda or my punto:devil:
