Same ol touchy subject !!!

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Okay, you all must have read or heard about the Muslim teacher who is suspended at the moment because she wont remove her vail. Politicians are getting involved and one has claimed something that i thought was the most valid point so far. Dont recall his name but he has said that the muslim community is promoting apartheid in the uk by not trying to fit in with the British lifestyle. I dont tarr everybody with the same brush but i honestly believe that this statement hits the nail on the head.:eek:
Am i wrong to agree with this claim or do you also feel its close to the truth?:confused:
 
Agreed, how can students learn a language properly without being able to see lip movement, and mimic it. I know one muslim girl, and the insight she gave me into her life was a culture shock to me.
 
I think there's some generalising going on here. Most muslims do integrate, but like other groups, there's always a minority who don't want to conform to british norms. As long as we keep this in perspective and don't bow to excessive demands, that's fine. Why people who hate the idea of being here don't go somewhere that suits their aspirations, I'll never understand :confused:
 
The veil is part of the Muslim religion. If we have to respect others religion and beliefs, then they must be allowed to wear it.

This is not my view by any means, but
If Muslims choose to live in the UK, then i think they should adjust to our culture, whilst keeping their religion and ideals just as we do.

At the end of the day, don't we, as British people accept the fact that the Muslim community are among us? Some may not like it, but the majority get on with things.

I think the problem here, lies with some Muslims not wanting to, or are not willing to accept the Western Worlds cultures and morals etc.

This thread is gunna open up a real can of worms me thinks. But it is still a valid point to bring across.
 
But compared to say Indians or other minorities, Muslim's do seem to appear to be less willing to integrate, whereas there are many succesful Indian business men/doctors etc.
 
sycojoe said:
The veil is part of the Muslim religion. If we have to respect others religion and beliefs, then they must be allowed to wear it.

Covering their face is not part of the religion, it is optional, only wearing a veil to cover hair is a part of Islam. My friend does neither, she says why not dress in western clothing when she was born here.
 
Muslims can be of any nationality.
You or me, could convert to being a Muslim.
 
In the least thread regarding the subject of veils I posted that the UK was a free country and if they want to wear veils then let them, but this case is different.

This woman was supposed to be teaching kids to speak English, right? She couldn't possibly do that job to 100% satisfaction whilst wearing a veil. Kids need to see the word being formed on the lips. Also, she was on the BBC News Channel earlier and I could barely understand a word she was saying. She had no business teaching anyone English regardless of whether or not she was wearing a veil. She couldn't do her job dressed like that, so she should be sacked.
 
you dont find many indian muslims because thats part of what caused the split too form pakistan(religion) after the british were ousted from india
 
I have to say, I don't agree with the minorities being able to get away with anything, then when questioned they accuse you of racism. I saw the same thing in a shop recently. The sign on the door said that you weren't allowed entry if you wore something that covered your face, such as a motorbike helmet, or similar. for security purposes.

She didn't it when asked to leave, she began shouting that the shopkeeper was racist etc... but it's been the store policy forever I think.
 
one thing that makes me irrate, and I know I'm going to get a slanging for this, is the fact that when things like this occur, these people *may* have been put into that position not because they are extra specially good at their job, but because they are there to make the business, company, school look good by employing minorties etc.
and for all I see where their going with it, and sometimes these people need a boost to help them and their minortiy group (although I wouldn't call muslims a minority in britain, theres plenty around and they are accepted), and by all means give it to them, but I just think it occurs too often.

the other thing i don't get is, why do forgeiners (not just talking muslims here, i'm talking ALL nationalites pretty much and all sorts of religions), come to britain, and then start being aggressive toward locals who have welcomed them into their comuinty??
worst places are when a whole group of the same nationality or religion has literally taken over a street, and you can no longer walk down that street without being harrassed, attacked, killed, molested etc etc (all have happened in sunderland recently).
what drives these people to do this?
 
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