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Posted 23 Dec 2018. Tesla had just started making the Model 3 and yes there were build quality problems. People like this guy knew what they were getting and by the way he still has Tesla in spite of a huge bill for new wheels. The skinny tyre 20" wheels cannot handle today's road conditions (potholes scaffold planks dropped in the road etc). They crack often in pairs and you are screwed with huge costs.

And he sold it 2 months later.



 
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Taking climate change etc out of the equasion, the car industry still needs to perfect alternative means of propulsion, as sooner or later, the oil will run out/become too expensive to produce, or emissions laws will become all but unachievable.
 
Taking climate change etc out of the equasion, the car industry still needs to perfect alternative means of propulsion, as sooner or later, the oil will run out/become too expensive to produce, or emissions laws will become all but unachievable.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, I think that the emission laws will not be achievable before long leaving electric as an only option, it also means that governments will be able to meet their international targets on things like CO2 and NOX especially where city pollution is concerned. Which at the moment they don’t.
 
Renewable power is all fine for off grid and up to about 50% of grid power. But its absolutely not low cost and above 50% the intermittency causes real problems. This was illustrated recently when the Scotland to North Wales interconnector cable went down and load had to be shed for wind turbines.

There is a low cost solution in 4th generation nuclear power. These use molten salt coolant and will bur the fuel fully leaving no long term was that's nasty for aeons. A PWR (as going up and Hinkley Point can only use 2% to 4% of their fuel's energy. The hot (literally and radiaoactively) used fuel is then stored and will continue to be nasty for 300,000 years. The problem is byproduct gasses, expansion of the solid fuel pellets and build up of actinides which spoil how the fuel "burns". None of these affect the molten salt plant because the fuel can move, expand, contract, gas off etc, etc. Even better, the nasty gaseous isotopes (iodine 131 and caesium 137) are not released as gasses. Both are highly chemically reactive elements that want to form salts (e.g. caesium iodide though there are many). These salts can't gas-off and will become yet more energy as the fuel burns down.

The British company Moltex Energy is building a full size plant in Canada which will cost less than an equivalent gas fired plant. Their designs could be cheaper than coal. Coal is used only because it's cheap. When something cheaper, clean and easy to use comes along, coal will go out of business. Renewables are not cheap but new nukes can be.


The Moltex gives automatic load following and a plant designed for "peaking". Low or even no power is made at quiet times of day and full power at peak times of day. Perfect for supporting the intermittent renewables.

The Moltex plant will be fueled by high level radioactive waste fuel. That will be burnt right down using up the 97% energy left unused by the light water reactor next door. It solves the storage problem. It could just as easily burn new uranium fuel which is much cheaper as a salt than the solid oxides used in PWRs. They have plans for thorium but the issues are entirely regulatory. It's potentially a great stuff but there are no systems laid down and anything nuke takes 10x longer than normal engineering.

The problems often quoted with molten salts are avoided by not pumping the active fuel, keeping the fuel in tubes and running the reactor vessel at atmospheric pressure. The safety systems are entirely passive making it intrinsically safe That makes it low cost as there's no fancy engineering to screw things up.
 
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Its DejaVu..
All over again. :)

There isnt 1 fix.

Infrastructure means pure electric for the masses is 10years away

Hydrogen.. viable now.. but too power hungry for every transport need

Nuclear.. hmm

ITER is a lot greener.. but funding is being cut.. so long delays
 
I don’t see the point in keep banging on about nuclear reactors which are not being built at the moment despite comments and have many problems still to fix.

Long term nuclear power is never going to be the answer.
 
I don’t see the point in keep banging on about nuclear reactors which are not being built at the moment despite comments and have many problems still to fix.

Long term nuclear power is never going to be the answer.

CANADA IS BUILDING A MOLTEX nuclear reactor at New Brunswick. It will burn irradiated high level waste nuclear fuel from the CANDU plant next door. The programme is in line for grid connection in 2028. A long time for something so simple but really quick for a nuke. The engineering is sorted the slow pace is entirely regulatory.

The plant is built on site at costs less than a similar sized gas-fired power plant. It's expected to be on or under budget, because the plan allows for the nuclear island to triple in cost and yet still leave the entire project within budget. Fuel costs are negative because they are being paid to take away the used fuel currently stored on site in cooling ponds.

The fuel assemblies comply with pre-existing international standards. They are conventional nuclear certified stainless steel tubes containing the fuel salt. The reactor core runs in the fast spectrum with a secondary salt coolant. A tertiary salt removes heat to thermal stores and steam generators. Atkins nuclear engieers have already qualified and costed the designs.

The high temperature steam conditions allow standard commercial grade turbo generators (read low cost). The Chinese are interested in these reactors to directly replace boilers on coal fired power plants. Estonia is also interested in having a plant.

UK should eventually get Moltex plant, but UK is the worst place in the world to do anything nuclear directly because the regulatory system is so opaque.
 
CANADA IS BUILDING A MOLTEX nuclear reactor at New Brunswick. It will burn irradiated high level waste nuclear fuel from the CANDU plant next door. The programme is in line for grid connection in 2028. A long time for something so simple but really quick for a nuke. The engineering is sorted the slow pace is entirely regulatory.

Is it?? Is it being built? Has anyone actually picked up a shovel and started digging a foundation ?

No, no they haven’t. It is not just regulatory it is also funding, MOLTEX as a company doesn’t currently have the money to build a power plant, what they have is some funding to try and sort out the regulatory problems.

It is misleading to say that anything is being built. Even if it where 2028 is the date they are touting as being the year something would become operational. To put that in context the Hinkley point station will have taken 10 years from being funded to being operational assuming it does come online in the planned 2023 and they already had the regulatory barriers taken care of and they had a technology that was tried and tested..... MOLTEX doesn’t have the funding nor has it sorted out the red tape.

I’d not expect Molten salt reactors to be available for commercial use till 2040 assuming they ever get through the red tape. And by then would other alternatives not be more worth the investment?

They already have solar molten salt reactors which actually work and have been built and tested and still investment in this technology has collapsed as it isn’t financially viable
 
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Is it?? Is it being built? Has anyone actually picked up a shovel and started digging a foundation ?

No, no they haven’t. It is not just regulatory it is also funding, MOLTEX as a company doesn’t currently have the money to build a power plant, what they have is some funding to try and sort out the regulatory problems.

It is misleading to say that anything is being built. Even if it where 2028 is the date they are touting as being the year something would become operational. To put that in context the Hinkley point station will have taken 10 years from being funded to being operational assuming it does come online in the planned 2023 and they already had the regulatory barriers taken care of and they had a technology that was tried and tested..... MOLTEX doesn’t have the funding nor has it sorted out the red tape.

I’d not expect Molten salt reactors to be available for commercial use till 2040 assuming they ever get through the red tape. And by then would other alternatives not be more worth the investment?

They already have solar molten salt reactors which actually work and have been built and tested and still investment in this technology has collapsed as it isn’t financially viable

Come on, go easy on Canada... they have a wet sponge as their leader atm, I'm sure many projects and progress have been stalled due to him... :(
 
Come on, go easy on Canada... they have a wet sponge as their leader atm, I'm sure many projects and progress have been stalled due to him... :(

:confused:Seriously who are you listening to ??

Assessment of campaign promises
In July 2019, a group of 20 independent academics published an assessment on Trudeau's tenure as prime minister, called Assessing Justin Trudeau's Liberal Government: 353 Promises and a Mandate for Change. The assessment found that Trudeau's Liberal government kept 92 per cent of pledges, a sum of complete and partial pledges. When calculating completed and realized pledges, they found Trudeau's government kept 53.5 per cent of their campaign promises. Trudeau's government, along with the "last Harper government had the highest rates of follow-through on their campaign promises of any Canadian government over the last 35 years," according to the assessment.


Trudeau Has Canada's Economy Humming
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-17/trudeau-has-canada-s-economy-humming
 
:confused:Seriously who are you listening to ??




Trudeau Has Canada's Economy Humming
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-17/trudeau-has-canada-s-economy-humming

Come on man, I know we are on other ends of UK politics but Trudeau, perhaps good for the economy, but it's the social justice aspect I can't stand. First thing he did when he got in was fire his cabinet so he could achieve 50% male and female split on it... what an idiot. As opposed to, you know, whoevers the most competent person for the job! (be it more men, or more women..). He's ruining Canada that way. He's also legislating speech so that you 'must' follow made-up genders. It's not that people shouldn't be able to think what they want, but me or you (or the Canadian people) shouldn't be forced to play along either, you know (n)
 
It was literally a facepalm moment for me, wondering where the hell the information was actually coming from, doesn’t seem to matter what the subject is, it seems to need to come down to politics. Especially as in this instance it is completely irrelevant to what Dave and I had discussed.

What I didn’t do was ask why you didn’t like him, just where are you getting this from?
 
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Yeah, you started it though, and Andy is also in the wrong for responding to your offtopic comment, stop turning every damn thread into a bloody soapbox war.



Me nor Andy really asked for your opinion on this particular branch off of the discussion? He wanted to reply so he did. I don’t see the issue with that. Perhaps your unrelated comments are equally as bad as you suggest mine are you the true ‘soapbox war’ catalyst...

Still, thanks for your input. Everybody’s welcome to join in! Enjoy your evening..
 
It was literally a facepalm moment for me, wondering where the hell the information was actually coming from, doesn’t seem to matter what the subject is, it seems to need to come down to politics. Especially as in this instance it is completely irrelevant to what Dave and I had discussed.



What I didn’t do was ask why you didn’t like him, just where are you getting this from?



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Source for my comments about Trudeu come from successful clinical psychologist Dr. Jordan Peterson and author.

He’s somewhat of a life saver for young men in this day and age as far as I’m concerned with his work / book / lectures. I’d encourage anybody on here to read his book as it’s really empowering in terms of finding direction in a noisy world with so much controversy.

I look up to him a lot, anyway [emoji16] but by all means don’t discount him just because I like him lol
 
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