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New car suggestions?

I'm planning on getting something new this winter with a 2.5k max budget.
I started off all immature looking at Smart Roadsters but I think I've ruled them out due to reliability issues.
I'm toying with the idea of a Smart Forfour Brabus, we had a non Brabus in the family for many years and it was always cheap to run and very little went wrong over the years. They're hard to find though and I think it might be a little too 'harsh' for a daily commute.
My sensible choice is a Bravo Sport 150 t-jet. I think everything about the car makes sense although it's probably a bit bigger than I need. For some reason I'm just not won over by it...

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Must be petrol, preferably manual.
Cheap to run(ish)
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Not too slow, or at least an exciting slow car (hence Smart Roadster)
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@blu73 already recommended one of those, I'm not sold on the looks and the interior looks a bit cheap
Should've mentioned I'd like some creature comforts, A/C a must, I've always wanted a car with cruise control so that would be a big plus!
Again the Bravo ticks these boxes but it doesn't excite me....
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Re: New car suggestions?

Mito just a Grande Punto with nicer engines and firmer suspension? My sister wanted one and I steered her away after reading bad reviews but its definitely the newest/lowest mileage car I've looked at.

High mileage Swift Sports are in budget, anyone on here driven/owned one?
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Basically yeah, I've had mine (1.6 MJTD2) for almost a year and done 20k in it, been pretty much faultless but it did cost a bit more than the one above
@StevenRB45 had a Swift for a while, not sure if it was a Sport?
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Re: New car suggestions?

I had a Suzuki Swift 1.5 GLX VVTS 3 dr so a detuned version of the iggy sport motor rather than a proper sport. Good little car served me very well and had A/C as well.

Bit squishy if you want to go fast but with 100bhp in a shoe box it certainly wasn't slow for the class and a giggle to the point I destroyed most of the suspension and wheel bearings back road hooning it in the 6 years I had it (oops). I can definetly attest to it's ability to keep a Focus ST170 very honest on a windy road and Saxo Vtrs and Yaris T sports very honest in a straight line.


The sport is a bit of a future classic possibly, but they are pretty juicy on fuel (early ones only take 98 later ones can take 95 but you'll be lucky to get 38 mpg from either). Also you may have a job finding one at that age and money that's not had 6 careful test pilots.

Good cars though.
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There's a thought actually Yaris T sports will also be in this range..
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Re: New car suggestions?

Didn't know about the earlier Swifts needing 98 and the iffy MPG but its still a contender for me, my Saab manages about 21mpg in town so most cars are an improvement!

Had thought of Yaris T-sports but getting a bit old now, most have pretty high mileage although from what I've been told they're exceptionally reliable.
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Didn't know about the earlier Swifts needing 98 and the iffy MPG but its still a contender for me, my Saab manages about 21mpg in town so most cars are an improvement!

Had thought of Yaris T-sports but getting a bit old now, most have pretty high mileage although from what I've been told they're exceptionally reliable.
The normal swifts are a laugh never mind the sport, I went out to buy either a 1.4 mk2b Punto or a Grande Punto drove both, thought neither was a patch on my old mk1 and the fun had disappeared. Drove the 1.5 swift and immediately felt at home, except you could redline it all day without it blowing up (rip mk1 ). Very short for the class at same length as a panda but much wider so very pointy iirc, although mine on the standard GLX springs did like to lift an inside wheel.

Might be worth having a go in one, as Tbf I got mine 10 years ago now so the memories probably not as fresh is at could be.

members motors thread for it https://www.fiatforum.com/members-mo...pic-heavy.html
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The normal swifts are a laugh never mind the sport, I went out to buy either a 1.4 mk2b Punto or a Grande Punto drove both, thought neither was a patch on my old mk1 and the fun had disappeared. Drove the 1.5 swift and immediately felt at home, except you could redline it all day without it blowing up (rip mk1 ). Very short for the class at same length as a panda but much wider so very pointy iirc, although mine on the standard GLX springs did like to lift an inside wheel.

Might be worth having a go in one, as Tbf I got mine 10 years ago now so the memories probably not as fresh is at could be.

members motors thread for it https://www.fiatforum.com/members-mo...pic-heavy.html
Thanks for that, will have a read.
My first car was a Grande Punto, I did like the 1.4 8v engine but that was about it... I've driven a 1.2 16v mk2a Punto speedgear for a fair bit and totally agree, neither a patch on the mk1. My convertible whilst a heavier, bendier version was still a hoot to drive and rather controversially I loved the 1.6 8v!
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Re: New car suggestions?

I picked up my 2011 1.6mjtd Punto Evo a couple of months back for 1500, there are some bargains about, the Punto Evo got the 1.4multiair turbo and the 1.6mjtd of the Mito and the same levels of kit, there are a lot more nicer mitos about, because people didn’t buy so many of the fancy puntos, later fiat ditched all the nicer engines on post 2012 puntos and went back to the standard 1.2 and 1.4 options and the 1.3mjtd.

Lots of punto bargains about, but if you wanted something that you were planning to keep I’d go with the Mito, more likely to hold its value and a bit of a step up the quality ladder.

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Bravo t-jet 150 from 695 to 2,000 can be driven economically or quickly. Spacious enough for the average family and best of all if you get a cheap enough one you can drop the engine into a Panda when the MOT runs out.
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Bravo t-jet 150 from 695 to 2,000 can be driven economically or quickly. Spacious enough for the average family and best of all if you get a cheap enough one you can drop the engine into a Panda when the MOT runs out.
You might wish to read post 1.
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You might wish to read post 1.
I did. The thing is though for the 2,500 budget it would be a Bravo t-jet plus change.

There are plenty of tuners out there who can and will unlock the 150 restriction. Using a 695/124 Abarth base map for example with the right modifications to compliment it would give an equally as reliable 180+hp.

Styling is a bit of a let down with that generation Bravo. Too generic for my tastes but that does give a little Q-car potential rarely seen these days.

I'm petty sure with the right wheels and maybe a spoiler or some personal touches the blandness of the Bravo could be addressed.
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