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View Poll Results: Which car for an Alpine driving holiday?
Alfa 145TD 0 0%
Fiat 169 Panda 1.2/60 0 0%
Fiat Uno 45Fire 0 0%
Citroen Ulysee 0 0%
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Stay at home, you haven't got time for a holiday. 1 100.00%
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Old 28-07-2017   #1
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What goes up... must also come down?

Well, this time next week I'll be on holiday, for what feels like the first time in years.

Now, most of my 3 weeks is already filled by building work and car maintanence, but we were thinking of taking a trip for a few days.

We were looking at heading into the Alps, to find some cooler air, scenery and fun roads.
Maybe 2,000km over 3-4days.


Anyway, the dilemma is, which car do we take?

Or, rather, which car do I fix so that we can go?


Alfa 145TD
Has let me know in no uncertain fashion that it is due a new set of front wishbones. Have them in stock, but need to order a pair of tyres. I'm hoping I can get away with not doing the tracking this time, as it was set a year ago with new wishbones and I'll be replacing like for like (TRW).


Fiat 169 Panda 1.2/60
Supposed to be in perfect running order, but the ePAS has been playing up recently, which could make hairpin bends 'interesting'. Due a cambelt and waterpump change, again, have the parts ready.


Fiat Uno 1.0 Fire
An unknown quantity, though it was in daily use until recently and came with a wodge of reciepts (cambelt, water pump, radiator). Needs the brake master cylinder replacing and a service. Got all parts needed to make it go. Oh, and I suspect Madame will insist on a radio, I don't think it's ever had one.


Citroen Synergie/Evasion (Ulysee) HDI
No, just no. It's on winter tyres and I haven't even looked at the power loss/cutting out when hot problem yet.


Realistically, I have to sort the Alfa as it's my daily transport, the Panda is due a cambelt/pump and the Uno is my project, so they'll all get done.

I might even look at the Citroen...


Still, thought I'd give you a little poll to play with.


Best answers might get a postcard.

We're two large adults and a very large dog, if that helps.
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Re: What goes up... must also come down?

How many gears does the uno have?..I had one and 4 speed and top speed of 87mph was not a long distance choice!
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How many gears does the uno have?..I had one and 4 speed and top speed of 87mph was not a long distance choice!
I think there are 4, not certain though, as it looks like the gearknob has melted a bit!!

I've only found 4 so far.
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Re: What goes up... must also come down?

ours was CVT .. so you've got off lightly..

panda = simplest to actually make the journey,

Alfa will be a nicer drive

uno / C8 ... might take you all 20 days..

IDEA : put the decent uno battery on the Panda,
that may well sort the steering.
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Re: What goes up... must also come down?

Take whichever you think will be the most reliable. You don't want to spend your well-earned holiday broken down at the side of the road. From that list, I'd say the Panda will be the easiest to get parts for if you have an unexpected incident.
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I would like to know more about your dog.
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I would like to know more about your dog.
Dog is a 'Berger Suisse', little big bigger than a German Shepard, needs a fair bit of room in the car if it's a long trip.
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Re: What goes up... must also come down?

Well, we covered around 1500km over 3 days, including the Col de l'Iseran and a quick shopping trip into Italy, where every third car was a Panda.

The Alfa performed wonderfully and was often one of the faster vehicles on the roads, I frequently found myself catching the cars in front.

We had to stop or back off a few times in order to let the engine temperature drop, but overall it was a good performance for a 21 year old vehicle being driven enthuiastically.


Now needs new brakes and the driveshafts are starting to knock.

Still, great fun to tale the car on roads it was built to drive
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