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Old 04-01-2018   #211
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Plenty of 6-7 year old leafs driving about with the original battery, infact most cars will be on original batteries still.

Drivers of electric cars have a different mind set to owners of mobile phones.

People put their phones on charge every night and max them out, this isnít good for long term battery reliability.
Electric car owners will only charge the car when itís needed and even then they might do an 85% charge if a full charge isnít required.

This way they get many many years of battery reliability.
Couldn't have put it better myself.

My main plan is to run it between 15-80% locally, only use full capacity when needed for longer runs, or when charging is free
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Re: Going electric

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

My main plan is to run it between 15-80% locally, only use full capacity when needed for longer runs, or when charging is free
Most car battery controllers already limit the charge to less than the full rated capacity of the battery and never let you run it into deep discharge. This results in much improved battery life at a slight expense of range. Some laptop computers allow you to set charge to 70-80% of and it makes a big difference to the life if you manly use it connected to the mains.


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Re: Going electric

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Most car battery controllers already limit the charge to less than the full rated capacity of the battery and never let you run it into deep discharge. This results in much improved battery life at a slight expense of range. Some laptop computers allow you to set charge to 70-80% of and it makes a big difference to the life if you manly use it connected to the mains.


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Indeed, however the closer to the middle of the range you can keep it yourself the better also, this is why most Hybrid Toyota's are still on their original traction battery after 15+ years, they only use the centre 55-60%.

EV's however use a much larger range, the Soul I'm collecting tomorrow for example has a 30.5kwh battery with 27kwh useable. So around 90% if the the battery is used.
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My brother sent me this pic from Bristol.

Looks ripe for a 'trip' and a compensation claim.
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My brother sent me this pic from Bristol.



Looks ripe for a 'trip' and a compensation claim.


Maybe in the future parking bays will have wireless charging?! Cutting out those pesky cables! Hahaha the way technology is going who knows?!
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Maybe in the future parking bays will have wireless charging?! Cutting out those pesky cables! Hahaha the way technology is going who knows?!
Or an induction coil you park over in the road
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For a long time we have worried about electromagnetic fields from our mobile phones, leading to people holding them away form their heads using the speakers, or using the earbuds. Most phones nowadays have the transmitter at the base instead of the top, although only a slight move away from the brain.
Now we are proposing to create much bigger electromagnetic currents in order to charge our cars. Is this really a good idea?
The bonus of course, is that an inductive charging point in the road might prevent mobile phone use above it, so may reduce the number of people wandering aimlessly whilst on calls.
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Wonder if it will lead to people with pacemakers taking up jogging. Unintentionally.
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Wonder if it will lead to people with pacemakers taking up jogging. Unintentionally.
Or 'break dancing'?

Whilst initially funny, could be a risk.
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Re: Going electric

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Now we are proposing to create much bigger electromagnetic currents in order to charge our cars. Is this really a good idea?
The bonus of course, is that an inductive charging point in the road might prevent mobile phone use above it, so may reduce the number of people wandering aimlessly whilst on calls.
Although for a long time now itís been proven that there is little to no risk from mobile phones, you do have to raise an eyebrow at a large high energy electromagnetic field in the road or in your drive way, powerful enough to charge cars or busses quickly.
The thing with phones is you can choose to not be that close to them and any fields around them do not extend very far and are very low energy.

If these charging pads are dotted everywhere out on the street then itís not going to be something you can easily avoid, more of a concern for small children.
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So while I am not convinced the infrastructure costs and so on are going to happen any time soon the physics of these in floor charge systems is quite well understood. They have a coil which only transmits any energy when there is a sympathetic resonance coil in the right place (a car). The electromagnic field will be tightly linked between them for all sorts of reasons not least efficiency and so not to make a mockery of EMC regulations (dodgy radio waves disrupting permitted equipment like a radio). In fact it will be those factors which make them so difficult to make. They won't be a hazard to a body of any kind. As an aside, phones are close to microwave (as in cooker) but still a country mile from causing heating resonance. Charging coils even further away.
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Re: Going electric

Induction charging will never be practical for charging EVs. Any air cored transformer will be too lossy. The current mobile phone chargers are about the limits and they have a gap of around a milimeter (the case thickness), rather than the ground clearence of a car.
A more likely solution would be some kind of connector or bus bar in the kerb with an automated coupling device. This could be combined with an automatic parking system.

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Re: Going electric

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Wonder if it will lead to people with pacemakers taking up jogging. Unintentionally.
Hundreds get into Prius Taxi's monthly without any ill effect.

The main issue with induction charging is its very inefficient, resulting in a fair bit of needless (imo) energy loss. I'd rather plug a lead in rather than spend more than necessary on charging.

On that note. At the 500 mile mark in the Soul EV so far, 9 days into ownership, and I've still not paid for a drop of electricity
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Re: Going electric

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My brother sent me this pic from Bristol.

Looks ripe for a 'trip' and a compensation claim.
Actually rather trusting leaving a granny charger out like that - they're circa £300-£500 to replace if it get stolen
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Not a fan of the GTE, if you want performance buy a GTI, if you want super electric economy buy a e-Golf.

The GTE manages to be the worse of both worlds.

And I’m supprised no more one has pinched his charging cable
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