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1/ Nissan Qashqai, I have never ever seen one on the road being operated to a standard I would say the person sat behind the wheel was a driver.
2/ Audi Q and BMW X series as above but with more self-importance despite the whole SUV market compensating for impotence.
3/ BMW MINI, mediocre at best when it first came out, scrap now. "Improvements" to the MINI range that was critiqued for being far too big were to make it bigger, slower, more cumbersome and so ugly it make the Pontiac Aztec look good.
4/ Mini MPV's. Why? If you want an economical car get one, if you want to move people and things get something that doesn't bog out on hills if you are more than two up. That being said the original Suzuki Wagon was superb.
5/ Alfa Romeo 156. The 1.8 was under powered, the 2.0 neglected council estate chic, the 2.5 needed to be the Busso and the GTA was too exclusive, too expensive (and still is) and only ever front wheel drive. We had to wait for the 159 to marry the V6 with P4 drive. The 156 was a good looking car in it's day but wishbones are considered wear and tear items that you should change as often as the oil.
6/ Anything with paddle shift. Okay your car is 1.7 seconds quicker round a track than the same model with a manual. Good for you. I'm sure that comes in handy when you drive to the shops.
7/ Nissan GTR, do you know why Nissan don't call the R35 a "Skyline"? Because it isn't. Up to the R34 the Skyline was sublime the R35 is one of the most frustrating vehicles I have ever driven. "Computer says no" springs to mind. Great piece of technology, rubbish car.
8/ VW Golf. It's not so much the car. I've owned a few and they are a bit boring but okay and never really live up to the hype. It's the people who buy them. The...
"I've got a Golf because I've always had a Golf, my car before that was a Golf and the one before that was a Golf and my first car was a Polo I got from Mum and Dad because they just got a Golf. Before that they had a Golf, another Golf, another Golf and another Golf. I guess we've always had Golfs. Apart from Nan she had a Beetle".
...mentality is so disparaging it's almost Orwellian. And don't get me started on the whole "Dub Scene" thing.
9/ Mini. Real Mini, Austin, Morris, Rover Mini. I was nearly killed in one as a child, owned and loved more than a dozen since but can't afford them now. Absolutely fantastic cars when they are working but a complete total and utter nightmare to work on when they don't.
10/ Anything with more than simple drivers aids including diagnostic crap that needs to be reset after simple repairs and servicing. So that's pretty much anything post 1998
Traction control? On or off and maybe icy no more. If you need dynamic track or M modes on the road you shouldn't be on the road.
ABS? Okay I don't want to run people over either but again it should be something that's there when you need it not something you can faff about with.
Launch control? Okay if you have more bhp than you can handle but seriously if you don't know how to control your Renault Clio off a line get a bus pass.
(Sorry guys I'm in bit of a mood today and this thread topic is a nice little vent). :devil:
2/ Audi Q and BMW X series as above but with more self-importance despite the whole SUV market compensating for impotence.
3/ BMW MINI, mediocre at best when it first came out, scrap now. "Improvements" to the MINI range that was critiqued for being far too big were to make it bigger, slower, more cumbersome and so ugly it make the Pontiac Aztec look good.
4/ Mini MPV's. Why? If you want an economical car get one, if you want to move people and things get something that doesn't bog out on hills if you are more than two up. That being said the original Suzuki Wagon was superb.
5/ Alfa Romeo 156. The 1.8 was under powered, the 2.0 neglected council estate chic, the 2.5 needed to be the Busso and the GTA was too exclusive, too expensive (and still is) and only ever front wheel drive. We had to wait for the 159 to marry the V6 with P4 drive. The 156 was a good looking car in it's day but wishbones are considered wear and tear items that you should change as often as the oil.
6/ Anything with paddle shift. Okay your car is 1.7 seconds quicker round a track than the same model with a manual. Good for you. I'm sure that comes in handy when you drive to the shops.
7/ Nissan GTR, do you know why Nissan don't call the R35 a "Skyline"? Because it isn't. Up to the R34 the Skyline was sublime the R35 is one of the most frustrating vehicles I have ever driven. "Computer says no" springs to mind. Great piece of technology, rubbish car.
8/ VW Golf. It's not so much the car. I've owned a few and they are a bit boring but okay and never really live up to the hype. It's the people who buy them. The...
"I've got a Golf because I've always had a Golf, my car before that was a Golf and the one before that was a Golf and my first car was a Polo I got from Mum and Dad because they just got a Golf. Before that they had a Golf, another Golf, another Golf and another Golf. I guess we've always had Golfs. Apart from Nan she had a Beetle".
...mentality is so disparaging it's almost Orwellian. And don't get me started on the whole "Dub Scene" thing.
9/ Mini. Real Mini, Austin, Morris, Rover Mini. I was nearly killed in one as a child, owned and loved more than a dozen since but can't afford them now. Absolutely fantastic cars when they are working but a complete total and utter nightmare to work on when they don't.
10/ Anything with more than simple drivers aids including diagnostic crap that needs to be reset after simple repairs and servicing. So that's pretty much anything post 1998
Traction control? On or off and maybe icy no more. If you need dynamic track or M modes on the road you shouldn't be on the road.
ABS? Okay I don't want to run people over either but again it should be something that's there when you need it not something you can faff about with.
Launch control? Okay if you have more bhp than you can handle but seriously if you don't know how to control your Renault Clio off a line get a bus pass.
(Sorry guys I'm in bit of a mood today and this thread topic is a nice little vent). :devil:
