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anyone else regret voting leave? May's first announcement was enough for me to realise I was wrong.
Nope, not at all! This is an excellent opportunity for us. Hopefully, other countries will leave, and the eu will crumble.
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Nope, not at all! This is an excellent opportunity for us. Hopefully, other countries will leave, and the eu will crumble.
We still need to trade with them I'm afraid, far more than whatever half arsed scheme Boris has dreamt up about joining the Pacific equivalent..

Wishing them ill is like standing on the deck of the Titanic laughing at the people in the water.
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We still need to trade with them I'm afraid, far more than whatever half arsed scheme Boris has dreamt up about joining the Pacific equivalent..

Wishing them ill is like standing on the deck of the Titanic laughing at the people in the water.
I agree we still need to trade with them, but hopefully we'll also be able to do more trade with the rest of the world than we could before.

And I disagree: it might be tough for a while, until companies are able to get themselves sorted, but in the long term, I think we're far better off out of the eu. I'm afraid I just can't agree with their policies.
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I'm afraid I just can't agree with their policies.
Article 13 EU copyright law was the cherry on the cake. I don't know how anyone can take an establishment passing such a law uncontested and unmodified seriously.
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There is nothing to stop UK implementing the same copyright rules or ignoring the EU version. The point is we now have the choice.
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There is nothing to stop UK implementing the same copyright rules or ignoring the EU version. The point is we now have the choice.
The UK government did ignore it, but you're missing my point. My point was how could anyone trust such a large inept organisation that would think such a law was sustainable or a positive thing for the digital economy going forward?
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Article 13 EU copyright law was the cherry on the cake. I don't know how anyone can take an establishment passing such a law uncontested and unmodified seriously.
I know nothing about the law you refer too, when was it passed into eu law?
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I know nothing about the law you refer too, when was it passed into eu law?
I believe it became article 17 then became law at some point last year. Thankfully early on the UK said they would not adopt the rules which was a bonus for anyone who uses YouTube or other video sharing services. For a while almost every youtuber was posting an anti-article 13 video. I believe part of the reason it became article 17 was because of how much bad press it got under the 13 name, all that bad press didnít stop the eu law makers passing it.
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Well I've resisted so many times from posting in loads on places but do have some posts here on FF where Brexit is a topic.

What I would like to say/advise is that for/since Brexit vote I've been subscribed to the UK GOV Brexit daily Emails the point to everything from how UK citizens living in the EU can live/meet in Italy/France/... to advice to and requirements for what the UK business need to do. Add to this all the information on the International Trade deals etc. we as a country leaving/left the EU then it is clear to me there has been commitment, due process, INFORMATION and a shed load of other stuff that escapes many peoples eyes/views of where this whole leaving the EU decision and required processes and actions have been occurring and will continue to occur.

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What you need to do as a food and drink business to work with the EU.

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Two statistically minor corrections have been made to pages 10 and 31 of the PDF document, and ‘Annex J: Notice On Corrections’ has been added on page 105. See Annex J for further information.

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How to import or move fish for human consumption to the UK.

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EU business: exporting to the UK

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Find out what EU businesses need to do to export to the UK.

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EU business: taxes and tariffs

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First published.

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I know nothing about the law you refer too, when was it passed into eu law?
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...%3A52016PC0593
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anyone else regret voting leave? May's first announcement was enough for me to realise I was wrong.
NO!

I was a leaning towards remain, but somehow voted leave.

Having seen the utterly despicable behaviour of EU since then, I'm now so glad I did.

In spite of the hassle its causing me now, it was still the best result ever; I just wouldn't want to be a part of it now.
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NO!

I was a leaning towards remain, but somehow voted leave.

Having seen the utterly despicable behaviour of EU since then, I'm now so glad I did.

In spite of the hassle its causing me now, it was still the best result ever; I just wouldn't want to be a part of it now.
Here in Northern Ireland, we're getting a lot of disruption from some companies and couriers pretending they can't get things here... (funny how competing companies can though...). But I am still glad we left, and willing to ride this out.

I think the vaccine situation is a real world example of how the logistics of one country batting for itself has proven more practical and efficient, versus the logistics of a massive organisation like the EU, riddled with bureaucracy and far too many diverse economies and geography etc. to consider to be able to do as good or fast a job when it really matters.

It's a good example because it doesn't point the finger at anyone or political stance as such, it simply shows how the two different approaches have fared against a great challenge that we all have an interest in trying to overcome.
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The USSR proved (with its five year plans) what happens when you try to control the whole economy from the centre. They went bust. The EU seems to be repeating the same setup.
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The USSR proved (with its five year plans) what happens when you try to control the whole economy from the centre. They went bust. The EU seems to be repeating the same setup.
Indeed, already starting to see it with some of the poorer Mediterranean countries who are EU members. Policies that somewhat make sense in the richest countries such as Germany and France are doomed to fail in countries like Greece and Malta.
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