BMW and Mercedes are being cited as being involved in the same practices this morning, my prediction is that ford and or GM (Vauxhall) will be next in the firing line.
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I know that, I was just saying it's old news that the official mpg figures are pretty much meaningless.
what are the chances of all the new low emission commercials being affected and if they are what will happen to low emission zones if its found no one can meet the requirements, how will cities function?
So far only VW light commercials are implicated, hopefully they all won't have been as daft. If they have the government will face a choice between maintenance of life as we know it and principles/public health Cameron has no principles other than pandering to the news papers so whatever they decide is the right choice will happen.
Assuming they all did it, you couldn't take all the non-compliant cars and vans off the road tomorrow the economy would stop. So then what? Reclassify their tax at a higher level based on their actual emissions and charge the difference between tax paid and tax owing to the manufacturer? Would work as a per vehicle fine quite nicely.
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Top man at Porsche is now in the hot seat at Volkswagen but I think he's got a long hard road ahead of him though 
dave makes a very good point, I wonder if this will effect congestion zones at all? Not particularly in London but I'm sure there are other countries doing similar schemes like London.
Also remember when a judge in the UK said that anyone who was mis sold PPI could get compo? Does this mean that were all gonna get bombarded with textes from the "blame claimers" telling us that there's £2853 waiting to be claimed and that all we need to do is call a number?
dave makes a very good point, I wonder if this will effect congestion zones at all? Not particularly in London but I'm sure there are other countries doing similar schemes like London.
Also remember when a judge in the UK said that anyone who was mis sold PPI could get compo? Does this mean that were all gonna get bombarded with textes from the "blame claimers" telling us that there's £2853 waiting to be claimed and that all we need to do is call a number?
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I await my tax rebate
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It's like mine but with more metal round the top
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I think people are confusing CO2 and other things like NOx emissions.
Like others have alluded to above - I can't believe that VW will be the only ones that will eventually be implicated.
All the emissions figures are similar across the brands on like-for like engines, so if VW couldn't achieve (legally) something that , say BMW , Vauxhall or Mercedes could do already, surely they would buy themselves some opposition cars and reverse engineer them until they could achieve it rather than just plain cheating? Or am I being old fashioned?
Hitler would be proud of them.
All the emissions figures are similar across the brands on like-for like engines, so if VW couldn't achieve (legally) something that , say BMW , Vauxhall or Mercedes could do already, surely they would buy themselves some opposition cars and reverse engineer them until they could achieve it rather than just plain cheating? Or am I being old fashioned?
Hitler would be proud of them.
So it seems it affects all VAG group products including the 1.6tdi.
VAG have become lazy and com placement with their customer base of late.
They know people buy the cars for the badge.
The current Golf costs 38% less to produce than the old one, the better independent rear suspension was replaced with an old torsion beam save for higher spec models, the rear door panels have no soft touch in sight.
However, they sell by the bucket load because of the badge, assumption that it's reliable, and that the press over rate them because of large advertising budgets.
The new Passat annoys me the most and is so lazy, it's just a big Golf, same chassis, same interior stack but costs so much!
VAG have become lazy and com placement with their customer base of late.
They know people buy the cars for the badge.
The current Golf costs 38% less to produce than the old one, the better independent rear suspension was replaced with an old torsion beam save for higher spec models, the rear door panels have no soft touch in sight.
However, they sell by the bucket load because of the badge, assumption that it's reliable, and that the press over rate them because of large advertising budgets.
The new Passat annoys me the most and is so lazy, it's just a big Golf, same chassis, same interior stack but costs so much!
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Even Skodas are starting to lose their competitiveness: they used to be a decent car at a good price, but the latest Fabia and Octavia have generic, bland styling, and from what I understand, they aren't even that cheap to buy anymore.
It's not that VW couldn't achieve emissions, they just chose to be lazy.
Stop just assuming stuff and read up on the subject, it's entirely possible that no one else has this issue.
Sorry Mr abrasive. I wondered where you had been.
Apology accepted Mr Icouldntbebotheredlearningaboutthesubject. I was summering in the artic fyi
Apology accepted Mr Icouldntbebotheredlearningaboutthesubject. I was summering in the artic fyi
Ha Ha that would explain the frostiness!
Sorry I didn't realise it was an exam. Silly me.
how come ecu hackers haven't spotted anything or did they but we didn't hear about it.
