Eklipze3k said:

I've been considering a Legacy recently too, I put it down to watching too much MCM, but maybe they're actually also just a good car?!

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Well you never know until until you try...

This one has only ever appeared in MCM to be gutted and give it's suspension components to the 3.0 sedan they raised.

My Brother in law actually has a normal estate one..I should probably ask him what it's like!

I could afford one of the newer shape ones but they just look horrible..that and I'm enjoying being in an older car again at the moment and not caring about minor dings and lobbing stuff in the boot and if I get a new car...then I'm back to polishing the damn thing and not parking near the doors of supermarkets etc.

Fired off a speculative email to garage just to see if it had any history and a timing belt change.

Was expecting zip given it wasn't mentioned and then I could go back to looking at practical but uninspiring modern crap having satisfied myself it would probably be a money pit...but records of 14 services. It's 13 years old so that's full history give or take.

Ah poo...:bang:

:chin:

StevenRB45 said:

Time flies e.t.c.

That new car I've been talking about forever needs to be sorted by end of next month really, Citroen is due back early October.

Now I had a plan for what I was going to do...it wasn't an exciting plan but it was a plan none the less (C3 Aircross...for those that missed it).

Then took the Mazda in for it's service and this was looking at me..

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http://www.gardnerandwake.co.uk/index.php?p=1_10_4x4-Vehicles

so about 1/5th the cost of what I was going to spend and older and higher mileage than I what I have already.

Buuut no car payments.. plenty of money left in the kitty for four new tyres, a bit of a tidy up, a new stereo with DAB and Android Auto.

Costs about 50 quid more a year to insure than the Mazda..fuel on my mileage will be about 300 quid more a year..tax is 150 quid more. But I'm saving half of the initial chunk I was going to put down and the 250 quid a month over 3 years I was planning to spend on a car loan. Also to me it's 1000x more interesting than anything else I've looked at.

I'd need to get the underside looked at to make sure it has no bad rust but if it lasts 2 years without providing a massive bill job done.

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My son in law had a Forester for his daily transport for the 5 years they were based over in the States. I was in it quite a lot - went southern Maryland to north east of Boston and back twice in it - and I rather liked it (used a lot less petrol than their other car which was a Dodge Grand Caravan people carrier. It seemed to be reliable enough but cost a lot more than the Dodge to service and maintain.

So, having said I rather liked it, I would never contemplate owning something so complex. The cost of sorting the 4 wd is a bit frightening and spares are on the pricey side if anything more than filters etc. I think unless you really need 4 wd, and especially these newer "all time" systems, they are best avoided. Of course if you've got the cash to risk?

Pugglt Auld Jock said:

So, having said I rather liked it, I would never contemplate owning something so complex. The cost of sorting the 4 wd is a bit frightening and spares are on the pricey side if anything more than filters etc. I think unless you really need 4 wd, and especially these newer "all time" systems, they are best avoided. Of course if you've got the cash to risk?

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Odd one really...it's not throwaway money but the other side of the equation is original plan was put 4k into a 2 year old car, pay the rest over 3 years at 230-240 a month.

This even with what I would do it (I.e. four new all season tyres and a new stereo with dab and Android support) doesn't even reach how much I had I would have spent on a deposit. It's warrantied for 6 months, if it lasts that I've saved 1300 quid in car payments that could be used for repairs. If it lasts 12 months it's paid for itself compared to the payments on the newer option.

So not throwaway but worth the risk maybe?

My other thoughts are everything modern in budget is so unexciting that I feel like I need my head examined for considering it. While I've always been a Scooby fan since Colin Mcrae won the British championship in a Legacy Rs, also it's clear which way the wind is blowing before long we'll all have electric faux suvs so may as well have some a bit different while I can.

Not a 100% logical purchase..not an entirely stupid one either.

Go for it, spoil yourself [emoji4]. It might hit you with a big bill but you have done the maths and can afford it. Assuming it has life in an Mot its the sort of car that will hold value so you will be able to move it on when required.
A lot of car for the money at that age.

Tyres can be an issue with a full time 4x4. If one gets ruined when they are 1/2 worn, you often have to fit a full set. Different wheel speeds caused by uneven tyre wear can damage the expensive centre diferential.

andydiver said:

Go for it, spoil yourself [emoji4]. It might hit you with a big bill but you have done the maths and can afford it. Assuming it has life in an Mot its the sort of car that will hold value so you will be able to move it on when required.
A lot of car for the money at that age.

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Need to sit in it and have a proper drive, all the gears up to temp etc, although I've given it a quick glance over when I picked mine up the other week and driven past it multiple times. He locks the cars up out front and viewing is by appointment.

Might have been used as a dog van for years and stink etc.

Don't mind making the appointment but slight hitch in that we have no need of 3 cars...and nowhere to store it until October as well. Don't necessarily think he'll be beating off prospective buyers with a club though given it'll probably do at best 32mpg and costs 330 quid a year to tax that and he only advertises on his own website but it could have done with showing up in September.

DaveMcT said:

Tyres can be an issue with a full time 4x4. If one gets ruined when they are 1/2 worn, you often have to fit a full set. Different wheel speeds caused by uneven tyre wear can damage the expensive centre diferential.

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Most full time AWD seem to recommend swapping the wheels around regularly to even out the wear for this very reason. Downside, is all need changing at once. If it carries a full-size spare, ensure that gets worn too, then a puncture is less of a problem, as the new tyre goes in the boot and hopefully not needed until the rest are in need of replacement.

StevenRB45 said:

Don't mind making the appointment but slight hitch in that we have no need of 3 cars...and nowhere to store it until October as well. Don't necessarily think he'll be beating off prospective buyers with a club though given it'll probably do at best 32mpg and costs 330 quid a year to tax that and he only advertises on his own website but it could have done with showing up in September.

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There's an answer. You are unsure.
Ignore it until nearer the time you need to make the change. If it is still there then, get it, and it'll be cheaper. If it goes meantime, nothing lost.

This facebook group, not sure what the name of it means, It seems to be some sort of cult.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/705356693365045/about
they don't believe the virus is as bad as it is, still think its not as bad as flu.
They think face masks are to silence us.
They think the whole thing has been made up so they can say they are giving us a vaccine but really implanting a chip in us.
it would be funny but some of them claim to have kids with no immune systems and are taking no steps to protect them.
Their level of stupid is so high they could end up the next US president.

Oh they all seem to be racist too

It quite depressing how many "covidiots" there are. It's strange how conspiracy theories/anti-vaxers etc are usually very right wing and also massive racists.

Paddynabs said:

It quite depressing how many "covidiots" there are. It's strange how conspiracy theories/anti-vaxers etc are usually very right wing and also massive racists.

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You could perhaps imagine that a certain level of intelligence is required to fully buy in to these "challenging" "anti-establishment" theories of life.

I'm not working at their level unfortunately...so I just look in utter disbelief.

StevenRB45 said:

You could perhaps imagine that a certain level of intelligence is required to fully buy in to these "challenging" "anti-establishment" theories of life.

I'm not working at their level unfortunately...so I just look in utter disbelief.

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In my experience, it tends to be the far-left who are 'anti-establishment', and just generally against anything symbolising progress / success / wealth

Left = Good, sound and needed viewpoint of the world, keeps the right in balance.
Right = Good, sound and needed viewpoint of the world, keeps the left in balance.


I think the far right and far left is getting too much media time these days :bang:

SB1500 said:

In my experience, it tends to be the far-left who are 'anti-establishment', and just generally against anything symbolising progress / success / wealth

Left = Good, sound and needed viewpoint of the world, keeps the right in balance.
Right = Good, sound and needed viewpoint of the world, keeps the left in balance.


I think the far right and far left is getting too much media time these days :bang:

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The reason for the quotation marks would be...their theories are not anti-establishment or challenging anything in general. In general they either go against their own interests or are plain insane.

You know the sort of people who would walk through fire to see an eaton school boy stick one to the elites...

It’s not specifically the left or the right that have these weird ideas.

Many of the antivaxer mums out there are very very far left while the sort of people who rant about flat earth and have weird religious conspiracy theories about religion the lizard people and god knows what else are very right.

There is a massive swath of idiots in between those too points, I see now there is a rising fear in the states about an entirely different group that covers the whole spectrum of left to right who only have one agenda in mind which is anarchy.

I think most of the problem is one of education. Kids/future adults are not taught properly at school and so when they grow up they fill gaps In their knowledge with the ramblings of the insane conspiracy theorists who’s shout the loudest.

No one is shouting about the normal things because normal people take for granted what is obviously normal so why make a big deal about it.

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In my experience,:

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go join that group for a whole new experience then

Lol, deaths estimated at 54-63% below official figures, farcical accounting if you tested positive ever (say march) and died in July (not cv) still a cv death, officially you cannot ever recover from cv as long as you have tested positive. Although the PCR test is inaccurate a quick search establishes this. Uk to try and vaccinate 30 million for flu this winter yet studies show a much higher infection rate for those that had the vaccine last year. Lots of info out there if you look elsewhere, like the many countries using HCQ, plenty are to good effect so the stats show.
The tide is turning look at CBM, IBORO, SHEFFIELD UNIVERSITY and the fact a virus does not live.
Gates to make 200 billion his share of a estimated 2 trillion profit watch his videos and you trust this man.
I'm wasnt anti Vax til I did some research in the last few months, estimated 700,000 will have severe complications/death if 65 million vaccinated seems a high price to pay, look at 2005 vaccine sars/cov, and the deaths/complications in africa over the last 20 years, research vaccines even gov website has a vaccine compensation claim page, and don't forget the companies that make vaccines get the government to indemnify and pay the damages ????? So no risk whatsoever for them. Also if vaccines are so good why are 1 million plus still allowed to die of TB every year, why are they not getting the vaccine that is available ???? No profit in it.
Also at no time has so much been removed from the internet, never bothered about all those conspiracy theorists before which makes it odd they do now what are they trying to hide, ask yourself that.
Don't forget they have form from history of lying, some of those lies have cost millions of lives and are still costing lives to this day.
2 vaccines already thrown out after trials, all the vaccinated in one tested positive after being exposed and a 3rd causing too many side affects in 50% + of people so likely to be scrapped, I see an awful lot of ignorance about this but have still to meet anyone who doesn't think they are fiddling the figures, I've not stayed in since the start, never social distanced or worn a mask and nor have most people i know, I am going to the pub 2 times a week and eat out twice a week but then I'm not in the at risk age or medical history so my 0.0024 % chance goes down massively according to NHS statistics, and I have more chance of dying being stung by a wasp or in a car accident.
All those empty hospitals for months, and why have the 3 they built never been used.
the CDC, WHO, Royal college and all the others running this and advising governments around the world seem to change their minds every couple of weeks but all have one thing in common.
I'm sorry but if you believe every thing you are being told presently then they have been successful, and remember every model prediction on this has been vastly wrong so far, much like all the predictions on global warming, or climate change as they now call it, i live in a high risk area and since 1980 every few years I'm told I'm going to be underwater soon, the latest saying I've got 5 to 10 years left, and this is supposedly from their latest model predictions. So 40 years of being wrong from the experts with billions upon billions of funding and they think ill believe them this time. Just an example of the many times experts have been wrong on many things.
Don't bother replying use that time to do some research you may learn something, this is a great site for car info, but that seems about all youll learn here.

sandeel999 said:

Lol, deaths estimated at 54-63% below official figures, farcical accounting if you tested positive ever (say march) and died in July (not cv) still a cv death, officially you cannot ever recover from cv as long as you have tested positive.

All those empty hospitals for months, and why have the 3 they built never been used.

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The 3 empty hospitals.. they moved infected people to care homes instead


I read the news..

Not just here.. but 'motoring research' too

sandeel999 said:

lol, deaths estimated at 54-63% below official figures, farcical accounting if you tested positive ever (say march) and died in july (not cv) still a cv death, officially you cannot ever recover from cv as long as you have tested positive. Although the pcr test is inaccurate a quick search establishes this. Uk to try and vaccinate 30 million for flu this winter yet studies show a much higher infection rate for those that had the vaccine last year. Lots of info out there if you look elsewhere, like the many countries using hcq, plenty are to good effect so the stats show.
The tide is turning look at cbm, iboro, sheffield university and the fact a virus does not live.
Gates to make 200 billion his share of a estimated 2 trillion profit watch his videos and you trust this man.
I'm wasnt anti vax til i did some research in the last few months, estimated 700,000 will have severe complications/death if 65 million vaccinated seems a high price to pay, look at 2005 vaccine sars/cov, and the deaths/complications in africa over the last 20 years, research vaccines even gov website has a vaccine compensation claim page, and don't forget the companies that make vaccines get the government to indemnify and pay the damages ????? So no risk whatsoever for them. Also if vaccines are so good why are 1 million plus still allowed to die of tb every year, why are they not getting the vaccine that is available ???? No profit in it.
Also at no time has so much been removed from the internet, never bothered about all those conspiracy theorists before which makes it odd they do now what are they trying to hide, ask yourself that.
Don't forget they have form from history of lying, some of those lies have cost millions of lives and are still costing lives to this day.
2 vaccines already thrown out after trials, all the vaccinated in one tested positive after being exposed and a 3rd causing too many side affects in 50% + of people so likely to be scrapped, i see an awful lot of ignorance about this but have still to meet anyone who doesn't think they are fiddling the figures, i've not stayed in since the start, never social distanced or worn a mask and nor have most people i know, i am going to the pub 2 times a week and eat out twice a week but then i'm not in the at risk age or medical history so my 0.0024 % chance goes down massively according to nhs statistics, and i have more chance of dying being stung by a wasp or in a car accident.
All those empty hospitals for months, and why have the 3 they built never been used.
The cdc, who, royal college and all the others running this and advising governments around the world seem to change their minds every couple of weeks but all have one thing in common.
I'm sorry but if you believe every thing you are being told presently then they have been successful, and remember every model prediction on this has been vastly wrong so far, much like all the predictions on global warming, or climate change as they now call it, i live in a high risk area and since 1980 every few years i'm told i'm going to be underwater soon, the latest saying i've got 5 to 10 years left, and this is supposedly from their latest model predictions. So 40 years of being wrong from the experts with billions upon billions of funding and they think ill believe them this time. Just an example of the many times experts have been wrong on many things.
Don't bother replying use that time to do some research you may learn something, this is a great site for car info, but that seems about all youll learn here.

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Late morning, knock at the door, large scruffy van. Got to the door, parcel on step, van driver waved and set off.

All sounds good so far, but I was not expecting any parcel. Name on parcel no known to me, but address is mine. Not the first time that someone has ordered something and given the wrong address. Why don't people know where they live?

Packaging is branded, label shows order number.
Onto the website, 'contact us'. Two options, Whatsapp (not on it) or Live Chat. No phone or email.
Opened the live chat, needs to log in. Not a customer, so no login, but it allows entry using farcebook account, so here goes.
Message gave order number and name on parcel, stated that not me, and don't know who, could they email to say collect from 25.
Got a bright reply, understood the issue and emailed the customer. Great result. Promised I would not be on any marketing list. Seemd trustworthy.

Half an hour later, young lad at the door, boyfriend of girl next door. Sorted.
Apparently, when registering, entered postcode, then selected address from list. Presumably slip of the mouse, not noticed.

Check out the blogs/podcasts from Chris Martenson MD Peak Prosperity
https://www.peakprosperity.com/about/

Martensen makes no secret that Covid -19 can be very nasty indeed. However, he was warned by the US medical authorities back in the early days that he should not give Hydroxyxhloroquine with zinc. He told them he had adequate evidence to prescribe and would be happy to present to a tribunal. They have not bothered him after that.
He said back in April that viral the genome had some strange characteristics especially in the areas related to human infection. The normal mutation rates were non existent in those areas almost as if they had been pasted in. Australian virology research has since said the chances of these changes happening naturally are almost zero. Other researchers found signatures of gene editing tools.
All of that has of course gone quiet. For some reason nobody wants to admit this is not an entirely natural virus.

Vitamin D is vital for immune health. We should get enough is summer from sunlight but during winter many people are low. Many are low all year because they avoid sunlight.

Back in 2014, Ivor Cummings delivered lectures about Vitamin D (actually the lack of). He is not a medic, but uses existing medical evidence to show that most people should be taking 5000 IU per day. Way beyond the 600 IU in the official figures. The information is never given by GPs because they would lose their licence. High dose vitamin D is supposed to cause artery calcification thought the mechanism is never explained. It seems to be ignored that Vitamin D is almost always prescribed with calcium supplements.
Anyone can check out this information for themselves. Ivor Cummings shows the data sources and explains the mechanisms.

I have a friend who used to visit her mother on Trinidad 2x per year. When he mum died, she became ill. She put it down to depression. Her GP refused to prescribe medication but hinted she should check vitamin levels. She discovered the vitamin D issue, put herself on 5000 IU and her health turned around. When she told her GP, he explained that he is not allowed to discuss the issue even with dark skinned people. I don't see why he could not order a blood test. Rules is rules I guess.