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Old 19-06-2017   #511
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Crack on...at least it would show a level of imagination in that you wouldn't be building a car that's basically mass produced at this point.
Haha true that. I'm waiting for VW just to do the "scene edition" which is BBS replicas, half a suspension, and rust where the rubber of the stretched tyres has worn away the arches.

I think a build that offends purists would be the best. So maybe getting a high spec Jap car and putting in the 2.0 TDI engine from a Passat or something.
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I think a build that offends purists would be the best. So maybe getting a high spec Jap car and putting in the 2.0 TDI engine from a Passat or something.
If you did that the other way i'd totally be on board take a Passat taxi and fit a K20a Honda V Tec..

Yes it makes no sense you could remap the 2.0 tdi to produce more power with a remap than the k20 would but that would genuinely be an interesting thing.
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If you did that the other way i'd totally be on board take a Passat taxi and fit a K20a Honda V Tec..

Yes it makes no sense you could remap the 2.0 tdi to produce more power with a remap than the k20 would but that would genuinely be an interesting thing.
Haha well maybe if I ever save up money I'll do some stupid build (and probably horribly regret it almost immediately).
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Haha well maybe if I ever save up money I'll do some stupid build (and probably horribly regret it almost immediately).
There are some interesting tuned vws about. There's a bloke has a Skoda Superb 280 4x4..which sounds dull. Except due to vw reusing parts in everything it's basically a saloon golf R without the "innit bruv" and all the tuning parts fit. Last time I read about it it was well over 500bhp and externally standard pretty much. That appeals to me a lot.. if it was slammed on its ring piece with a 2.0 tdi..nope.

Tbf you need a forza game...I tend to just build the ridiculous..personal favourite being a 5 door supercharged honda engined rear drive Astra J..
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There's a bloke has a Skoda Superb 280 4x4..which sounds dull. Except due to vw reusing parts in everything it's basically a saloon golf R without the "innit bruv" and all the tuning parts fit. Last time I read about it it was well over 500bhp and externally standard pretty much.

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Ah the W8.

Interesting if immensely heavy.
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Ah the W8.



Interesting if immensely heavy.


About 70kg more than today's golf R

It's not that heavy by the standards of cars in that category.

It was basically a test mule for the technology they used in the veyron
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It's also about 30bhp down and has less torque, and you have to assume comedy weight distribution.

The Audi A8 w12 with the aluminium body was only 400kg heavier.
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It's also about 30bhp down and has less torque, and you have to assume comedy weight distribution.



The Audi A8 w12 with the aluminium body was only 400kg heavier.


It's the fact the engine is incredibly strong and can take some serious upgrades.

When you get into Audi A8 territory they it looses it 'sleeper' appeal as any A8 petrol as anyone knows, goes like stink.
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Don't get me a wrong they are a cool thing, but it's modern equivalent is the insignia vxr. On paper it should be amazing but somehow the end result isn't the sum of the parts.
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Talking about the Insignia .. that new model is definitely headed in the right direction. Quite nice IMO. Hard to believe not so long ago in its place was ...the Vectra
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Talking about the Insignia .. that new model is definitely headed in the right direction. Quite nice IMO. Hard to believe not so long ago in its place was ...the Vectra
But so much bodywork, so little space inside. Makes me love the Panda more. The lovely tinny clang of the doors shutting, but no effort and only have to shut it once. The Fiesta needs every door shutting twice, the second time in anger.
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Yesterday, couldn't fine a working car wash at the right time and place.
Today, darling cat, insisted 5:20am was the time to get up, as feeding her was imperative to prevent starvation. Or at least persistent clawing of the bed, carpet, my flesh, etc.
So at 5:30, I'm outside washing the car, not too hot yet, somehow relaxing and quite enjoyable, but sadly, the AA car, not the Panda. But now it is looking lovely (as lovely as a Fiesta can look) again, in white and AA yellow, instead of slightly beige.
6:45, had breakfast, and now a cup of tea. Ready for another horrible hot day.
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but it's modern equivalent is the insignia vxr.

Really not the same thing as the W8. There is nothing low key about any VXR. And the Vauxhall was never a stepping stone to a legendary car.
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Really not the same thing as the W8. There is nothing low key about any VXR. And the Vauxhall was never a stepping stone to a legendary car.
Ignoring the fact the insignia is in your face a moment.

It was more that you look at the components and expect greatness, but the reality begs to differ.

They only sold around 20 manual W8s, the auto does 0-60 in 8.1..so that's barely faster than your 2.0tdi and slower than most fast cars and direct rivals in period, it's only 1 second faster than a Passat 1.8t. Then there's the fact the Passat was never renowned for being a good steer and adding 4wd and a w8 did not improve the situation. While it's a mechanical oddity it has no Q car value as it's not fast enough, a Golf GTD would leave it as would a 2.0 tdi biturbo Passat in the current range. This leaves you with an extremely thirsty Passat that would bankrupt you if you have an engine fault.

Technically interesting definitely and from a period when VW was making some interesting odd balls, (v5 golf anyone?) rather than endless 2.0 turbos in different states of tune. But no it doesn't light my fire.
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