so glad i dont work or live in bradford city centre any more..
seen all of those on a regular basis. that drive from the M606 and past morrisons and lidl, that was my daily commute for best part of a year
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so glad i dont work or live in bradford city centre any more..
seen all of those on a regular basis. that drive from the M606 and past morrisons and lidl, that was my daily commute for best part of a year
Am I missing something in the second clip following the Mini? 
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Am I missing something in the second clip following the Mini?
i did too - dont understand it.....
Its a narrow road, mini waits for the already proceding car to clear the way
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its to show a bit of parking to a friend.
but why did mini even give way, clearly the taxi could see up the road, and should of saw mini, not like he came from nowhare, just some long stretched reasoning.
but why did mini even give way, clearly the taxi could see up the road, and should of saw mini, not like he came from nowhare, just some long stretched reasoning.
reported to company?
From what I can see though that is very poorly signed IMO!
Well that's the first time I've ever seen anyone go that way and I use the road most days, so it can't be that badly marked. Although if he'd turned left as he should have I wouldn't have been surprised to see him meeting a car coming the wrong way there.
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+1. If I'd never been there before, I'd go down that way (assuming i wanted to go that way...) - and I drive a 32ton tanker.
Is the No Entry sign you refer to the one on the right hand side (that you can just about make out) mounted on a pole in front of the lamp-post with another sign on it, which is helpfully obscuring the majority of the No Entry sign?
Also, IIRC, there should be a No Entry sign on each side of the road. I only see one, and even that is at a push. GSV, shows it as being angled towards McDonalds !
Link to The Traffic Signs Manual for Regulatory signs.
Page 5.
"SITING
1.15 It is essential that drivers have an unobstructed view of traffic signs. The distance which should be kept clear of obstructions to the sight line, whether caused by vegetation, other signs or street furniture,is known as the clear visibility distance. The higher the prevailing traffic speeds, the greater this distance needs to be."
Appears to be a 30 limit, but even at 20, the minimum visibility required is 45 metres.
Page 18
"616.
4.8 If traffic has to turn left or right at an unsignalled T-junction because the ahead manoeuvre is prohibited (see figure 4-5), a sign to diagram 609 may be used together with the road marking to diagram 1036.1 or 1037.1 as appropriate. It is not appropriate to provide a sign to diagram 606 pointing to the left or to the right. A plate to diagram 607 should be used with the sign only where traffic is turning into a one-way road. Any map-type advance direction sign should incorporate the appropriate regulatory roundel (e.g. “no entry”or “no vehicles”)."
The exemplar on the following page shows there should be 2 No Entry signs.
Page 25/26:
"4.36 A sign to diagram 652 should be erected on each side of the carriageway at the point of entry to a one-way road. The signs should be carefully sited to avoid possible confusion over which road they apply to. When the one-way road forms a junction with the side of another road, the signs should be sited in line with the backline of the major road, although they may be placed a short distance into the one-way road if this enables advantage to be taken of a convenient mounting point such as a lamp column. It may be desirable to orientate the sign to suit the direction of approaching traffic. Note that if mounted within 50 m of a junction from which traffic may approach the sign, the signs must be lit if the road is lit (Schedule17, item 1). This also applies to junctions within the one-way road (see para 4.37). Direct lighting of the signs in these circumstances ensures that drivers can see the signs at night where the headlamps of turning vehicles are unlikely to provide sufficient illumination from retroreflection."
Page 26:
"4.39 The “no entry” sign to diagram 616 should be placed on each side of a one-way road at the point where entry is prohibited (direction 8). When the road to which the signs apply forms a junction with the side of another road, the signs should be sited in line with the backline of the major road. The signs must be placed so that one is clearly visible at all times to traffic approaching from any permitted direction; this might require a sign to be angled slightly. Care should be taken in siting the signs to avoid the possibility of drivers misunderstanding which road they apply to."
I could go on.
With all that said, and from what I can see on GSV / your video... I have to agree with MEP. That whole place is a cluster-f**k of shoddy signage. It's as if the local council simply don't give a toss - which is (sadly) probably true :-/
If, as someone suggested, you've 'reported him'. I suggest you call them back and apologise, and then spend some of your time calling your local council's highways department and make them aware just now much of a ****-poor job they've done !
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If it's not that badly marked, then why would it be so unsurprising to see cars going the wrong way along another part of the road? Seems like a bit of a contradiction to me...
God, i'm in an argumentative mood tonight
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+1. If I'd never been there before, I'd go down that way (assuming i wanted to go that way...) - and I drive a 32ton tanker.
Is the No Entry sign you refer to the one on the right hand side (that you can just about make out) mounted on a pole in front of the lamp-post with another sign on it, which is helpfully obscuring the majority of the No Entry sign?
Also, IIRC, there should be a No Entry sign on each side of the road. I only see one, and even that is at a push. GSV, shows it as being angled towards McDonalds !...
I could go on.
With all that said, and from what I can see on GSV / your video... I have to agree with MEP. That whole place is a cluster-f**k of shoddy signage. It's as if the local council simply don't give a toss - which is (sadly) probably true :-/
If, as someone suggested, you've 'reported him'. I suggest you call them back and apologise, and then spend some of your time calling your local council's highways department and make them aware just now much of a ****-poor job they've done !
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If it's not that badly marked, then why would it be so unsurprising to see cars going the wrong way along another part of the road? Seems like a bit of a contradiction to me...
God, i'm in an argumentative mood tonight
I agree, there is p**s poor signage there - on the other hand, the driver had to wait for the bus to squeeze up there - and possibly something else as he seems to be hesitating before pulling out (someone parking maybe?).
The only way he could get into the area where he delivered was to come up this street (there is a single arrow at the bottom of the road indicating one way
). It's been like this for many, many years, so no satnav would direct you to go down here.As for Scout's comment, there is a car park for blue badge holders along to the left & some have, on occasion, been known to take a short cut from the other side of town by coming through the no entry signs (yes, there are two of them - follow GSV to the left along Britannia St & into Anchor Lane, just beyond the BT van where the road swings to the right and its junction with cambridgest/upper hundreds/new st). OR, some come out of the car park and turn right then immediately left into Hale st.
I've sent an email to TfB about the state of the signage.
(although iirc, there used to be a "no entry" sign in front of the building on the corner, this and its replacement was wiped out by gormless drivers)
Only true if he pulled out from the right hand lane - otherwise, just your average bellend lucky to have got away with that moronic manouvre
If it's not that badly marked, then why would it be so unsurprising to see cars going the wrong way along another part of the road? Seems like a bit of a contradiction to me...
God, i'm in an argumentative mood tonight
Just because some people choose to ignore very visible signage at the other end of the road doesn't affect the high street end.
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The driver had to wait for the bus to squeeze up there - and possibly something else as he seems to be hesitating before pulling out (someone parking maybe?).
The only way he could get into the area where he delivered was to come up this street (there is a single arrow at the bottom of the road indicating one way
Well, if he wasn't a sat-naver and did indeed know the area, then he might well have been doing what I have been known to do.
"Hmmm... that looks dodgy."
*no/****-poor signage = no restriction*
"Ok then"
The only time I won't do that is when I come to a dodgy looking bridge with no MGW sign on it. If sat-nav says go another way, I go !
In order for a traffic restriction order to be valid it MUST be signed correctly, as described in The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 the Traffic Signs Manual I linked to previously, shows them what they can and can't do when 'making up' signs. E.G., there are certain signs that can and cannot be used together to convey a particular restriction.
Bottom line, if it ain't signed correctly, then the TRO is not valid, ergo, it's not a one-way street.
Sounds about right. The council know it is their responsibility not just to erect, but also to MAINTAIN traffic signage. I assume it was wiped out several years ago, and they just haven't bothered their arse to replace it ?
See that on a daily basis on that road. Thats Guessing that's the A62 coming down towards the Porscehe garage at Leeds
yes that's the one, never seen it done that way before, usually going in right hand lane to go forwards (a legal move just a little annoying if no traffic turns off)
he followed me in, then changed his mind, odd thing is he was only driving with a aggressive stance (not up my arse)
at about 44 seconds bus rear arch area clips the car in front of me, it didn't stop put his foot down and disappeared, can anyone make out the reg?
Edit this crap camera is Smart-i 3500HD
Edit this crap camera is Smart-i 3500HD
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Did you stop and give the Mazda driver your details?
yes she stopped around the corner so i told her to pull in the car park behind the shops, swapped details i emailed her the vid too, i am sure the bus driver new what he had done. look at the speed he passes out of view compared to the cars after him.
edit i was the only bugger who did stop though, sad times we live in
edit edit, the horn is me too trying to alert the bus driver
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