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Re: Have you declared your mods?

The only thing that's logged on the computer is the fact it's insured, the company and the name of the person insured. Nothing to do with mods, conditions imposed blah blah.
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i dont get why you keep saying phone? they didnt phone no one that check it on their computer and take the car away, they phone no one.
The national insurance data base does not list modifications that every car does or doesn't have, so if a car is stopped with 'undeclared' modifications then the police will have to contact the insurance company to establish the terms of the insurance policy.

Suffolk police are often involved in joint operations in Ipswich at the beginning of December they were cracking down big style on un taxed cars in partnership with the DVLA

Now that said you say VOSA where involved in this instance which suggest that the operation was nothing to do with 'undeclared modifications' but more likely unsafe modification, wrong sized wheels miss matched tyres, lights where lights shouldn't be, and illegal number plate lettering, in these circumstances VOSA can insist that the car be recovered from the road and taken for the appropriate repairs before requiring an safety assessment before allowing the car back on the road.

From what's been said I think this is far more likely than having anything to do with undeclared modifications. I work in Ipswich I know just how many badly modified dodgy cars litter the streets, have seen loads of untaxed cars and suspect many of these cars are also uninsured as well heavily modified cars are probably too expensive for a lot of these kids to insure which means the police just take the car away


They could also be seizing the cars under a section 59 as detailed on the Suffolk police website http://www.suffolk.police.uk/safetya...fications.aspx
maybe these drivers are already well known
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The only thing that's logged on the computer is the fact it's insured, the company and the name of the person insured. Nothing to do with mods, conditions imposed blah blah.


@LeighJet150 yeah I know about the different systems some companies use, some where X mod on its own would be ok, but if X with with Y & Z it tots up beyond a max mods point score and then wouldn't be allowed etc, and like you say there is then those with the 'I'm just thinking of adding X', only to then be told no that particular mod isn't allowed when they've already done it - I'm not on about your allowed (if declared) mods though.

Again some companies, not all, would rather you cough up the extra ££ for the mod over the phone (if its an allowed mod) than void your insurance, more ££ in the bank for them (on top of some of the horrific admin fee's which some companies charge).
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The national insurance data base does not list modifications that every car does or doesn't have, so if a car is stopped with 'undeclared' modifications then the police will have to contact the insurance company to establish the terms of the insurance policy.

Suffolk police are often involved in joint operations in Ipswich at the beginning of December they were cracking down big style on un taxed cars in partnership with the DVLA

Now that said you say VOSA where involved in this instance which suggest that the operation was nothing to do with 'undeclared modifications' but more likely unsafe modification, wrong sized wheels miss matched tyres, lights where lights shouldn't be, and illegal number plate lettering, in these circumstances VOSA can insist that the car be recovered from the road and taken for the appropriate repairs before requiring an safety assessment before allowing the car back on the road.

From what's been said I think this is far more likely than having anything to do with undeclared modifications. I work in Ipswich I know just how many badly modified dodgy cars litter the streets, have seen loads of untaxed cars and suspect many of these cars are also uninsured as well heavily modified cars are probably too expensive for a lot of these kids to insure which means the police just take the car away
nope they checked the little computer thing and said to the woman you only have alloys declared as modifications, not induction, exhaust or suspension. so they took the car with the reason of invalid insurance
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nope they checked the little computer thing and said to the woman you only have alloys declared as modifications, not induction, exhaust or suspension. so they took the car with the reason of invalid insurance
So why do they need VOSA? and as several people have already pointed out the "little computer" doesn't list modifications. Also for you to know this to be true you would have to be stood there from the moment they pulled the car till they loaded it up, why would you hang around like that ?
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So why do they need VOSA? and as several people have already pointed out the "little computer" doesn't list modifications. Also for you to know this to be true you would have to be stood there from the moment they pulled the car till they loaded it up, why would you hang around like that ?
mrs dave was there she picked the woman up and had it explained to her as the woman was in tears

i assume vosa is there as its a joint operation also they know what is standard and what isnt more than police do
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i must apoligise having spoken to the woman my self today i seems the police who spoke to mrs dave got it wrong.
police pulled the car in ipswich and escorted it 3 miles to portman road where vosa had a mobile inspection thing set up a bit like a mot station, vosa then checked car over a bit like a mot test, they wrote report and gave it to police, police did phone the insurers the co-op who said there and then insurance was void because of the mods vosa had put on the report.
woman has handed her licence over to police for an instant 6 points but has not paid the fine.
the vosa report has the wrong name on it, so could this mean the case is void? i reckon it is have said go get legal advice.
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If she's legal cover on her insurance it may well cover her as it'll normally cover motoring convictions depending upon what company coop sub contract it out to. Let us know how she gets on.
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