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They were people taken to hospital with Covid.
how do you know they had it if they wasnt tested?
no good posting me news paper links anyone can say anything in a news paper. show me a video of a doctor confirming they were all tested positive.
Even the bit you told be to read don't back up your claim,
Because everything ive seen the issue was they were sent to care homes with out being tested, not they were sent to them after testing positive.
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Head in the sand. National sickness service is perfect. Oh yes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...nts-hospitals/
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Head in the sand. National sickness service is perfect. Oh yes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...nts-hospitals/
Do you believe that it being a nationalised service had anything to do with this decision?

Or was there likely guidance received that this was an acceptable course of action which would also have been followed if the hospitals were in private hands?

Anyone can be 100% correct in hindsight.

That and the article you've posted backs up Daves point that untested people with no covid symptoms were returned to the care home population...not that those who had tested positive or had symptoms were sent into care homes.
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That and the article you've posted backs up Daves point that untested people with no covid symptoms were returned to the care home population...not that those who had tested positive or had symptoms were sent into care homes.
There are many ways to test a patient's condition. The patients concerned were clinically proven as having the disease being sent home to convalesce. We were already locking down the country to avoid spreading the infection. NHS actions went directly against all of that. Hind-sight is not relevant on this situation.
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There are many ways to test a patient's condition. The patients concerned were clinically proven as having the disease being sent home to convalesce.
"Clinically Proven" to have the virus would consist of a positive covid test, there is no other diagnostic criteria especially in someone who is asymptomatic.
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There are many ways to test a patient's condition. The patients concerned were clinically proven as having the disease being sent home to convalesce. We were already locking down the country to avoid spreading the infection. NHS actions went directly against all of that. Hind-sight is not relevant on this situation.
You are completely missing the point of reported situation.
People are often sent home all the time when although not fit will no longer benefit from staying in hospital.
But during a pandemic they should have been tested first to know one way or the other. They were NOT knowingly sent home positive as they were not tested.|
where the government failed was in not putting in a test before discharge procedure.
If hospitals just didn't send anyone home like you think should have happened (
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NHS actions went directly against all of that.
) People will have died due to lack of beds. the NHS didnt let us down, the government let the NHS and care system down again.
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The whole problem with the NHS now and always is that it's run as a government department. It's ever more bloated with box ticking, complex systems and one-size-fits-all management.

I always maintain that access to good quality healthcare is a basic human right. That does not mean it has to be run by the government. I want our NHS to continue, but fear if it carries on the way it has to date, we will get ever less from it while paying ever more for it.
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The whole problem with the NHS now and always is that it's run as a government department. It's ever more bloated with box ticking, complex systems and one-size-fits-all management.

I always maintain that access to good quality healthcare is a basic human right. That does not mean it has to be run by the government. I want our NHS to continue, but fear if it carries on the way it has to date, we will get ever less from it while paying ever more for it.
Not technically true, most hospitals now are run very much like private companies, they can pick and chose what services they do or donít want to support, they can sell services like a private health care firm to the NHS, for example one trust I know that is local to Norfolk/Suffolk runs a Profitable service administering medications and treatments at home to patients which normally would have nothing todo with an acute hospital trust. They can also sell their facilities to private firms like MRI time or theatre time.

There are many facets too how the NHS is organised, drawing on lots of different organisations for guidance and support, but ultimately the only control the government has is holding the purse strings (very very tightly )
They donít say what treatment you can or canít have and they donít get to say who gets employed or not or how many beds a ward or hospital should have, nor do the government pick and choose which hospitals to open or close, itís all handled within the NHS, and every so often a politician comes along for a photo opp with the nurses to make themselves look good
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Not technically true, most hospitals now are run very much like private companies, they can pick and chose what services they do or don’t want to support, they can sell services like a private health care firm to the NHS, for example one trust I know that is local to Norfolk/Suffolk runs a Profitable service administering medications and treatments at home to patients which normally would have nothing todo with an acute hospital trust. They can also sell their facilities to private firms like MRI time or theatre time.

There are many facets too how the NHS is organised, drawing on lots of different organisations for guidance and support, but ultimately the only control the government has is holding the purse strings (very very tightly )
They don’t say what treatment you can or can’t have and they don’t get to say who gets employed or not or how many beds a ward or hospital should have, nor do the government pick and choose which hospitals to open or close, it’s all handled within the NHS, and every so often a politician comes along for a photo opp with the nurses to make themselves look good

Secretary of State for Health and Social Care wears a NHS badge though, that really pisses me off, only people who have earned that badge should be allowed to wear it
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Opened a door in the car only 2 of 3 interior lights came on. Switched on the switch, but not with the door.

Circuit boards are known for going as they get older but as it was performed a bit "percussive tuning" and on it came.

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LONG trip back from work on Sunday eve.. strong headwind - using extra fuel
...for @80 miles !

Garages en route were closed..sunday evening hours .. made it ok

Did usual shop tues evening... Tesco PFS.

DUG UP..CONED OFF

Gauge was showing nothing for the 3 miles back

Borrowed a can and a lift to get 5 litres

Diesel tube into unleaded neck..a SLOW process ...

Gauge now shows 1/4 of a tank..

Although 10 minutes in the rain may have added a bit..


Could be worse.. checked electric charging points : dvla online

Same tesco 3 miles uphill

Alternative at pub 8 miles downhill

Do them battery cars coast..I doubt it
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I may be broken. I've done 5.5 hours in a single sitting in that car but 3 hours with a toddler is definitely enough.
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LONG trip back from work on Sunday eve.. strong headwind - using extra fuel
...for @80 miles !

Garages en route were closed..sunday evening hours .. made it ok

Did usual shop tues evening... Tesco PFS.

DUG UP..CONED OFF

Gauge was showing nothing for the 3 miles back

Borrowed a can and a lift to get 5 litres

Diesel tube into unleaded neck..a SLOW process ...

Gauge now shows 1/4 of a tank..

Although 10 minutes in the rain may have added a bit..


Could be worse.. checked electric charging points : dvla online

Same tesco 3 miles uphill

Alternative at pub 8 miles downhill

Do them battery cars coast..I doubt it
Out of interest how much of the fuel tank capacity did you fit in from 0?

Mines ridiculously conservative...fuel capacity is 55l everything in the car will tell you 0 fuel remaining at 42l used.

Quite annoying cos it makes the range realistically 350-450 miles when in reality it would be well over 500 if they gave you an accurate gauge.
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Its a grande..but 2012

There no way its a 20..or even 30 litre tank

Going UP to the house from the coast it was showing probably 20 miles remaining

RANGE display cut off on level M way at 39 miles.. I then drove up for @20 miles

My diesels say 800 miles RANGE when full

So approx. 10 gallon capacity

But I seldom FILL them.. diesel is 10p mile

So £15 does trip and a weeks running round £12 for trip back

The twinair is good.. just not a diesel

Indicated mpgs

Diesel 68
Twinair 55
TA shows 550 range on full tank.. so about right for 45l / 10 imp. Gallons
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