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Re: What's made you smile today? (Part II)

I had a replacement steering rack fitted to my old GP.
IT didnt track quite straight..

Dug out my old laptop.. got MES running.. in demo.. looked simple.. went out to the car

5 mins later.. result.. major improvement

While it was on I tested the cooling fan and dash warning lights.

Spotted an option for
'Return to factory settings..'

Why not.

Been driving much better ..!!

The list of issues is getting shorter
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My sister (former owner of my Panda) just got a new old car (as she does) but this time itís an older Audi A4.

Thatís two Zafiraís, a Mazda 6, Astra and now this since 2015.

And none of them made it to as many mines or as many years old at the Fiat.

Iím betting the A4 will be the same.
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"Rule of Three" strikes again! This time it's vacuum cleaners.

A little before Christmas My youngest boy's wife asked me to look at their Hoover - Actually, it's a Dyson rollerball thing. Mains powered. The brush wasn't rotating and it didn't suck much even though the motor was running. First thing I noticed was that the brush was pretty bald - most of it's bristles were badly worn down. I've never worked on an upright hoover that didn't drive it's brush with a belt and it took a few minutes to figure out how it comes out, but once removed the reason for non rotation was easy to see. The brush itself is like a loo roll core with bristles on the outside. It sits over a cylindrical core which contains the motor which drives it (yes, this vacuum has two motors!) and there was "rolled up" dust and hair jammed between the brush and the inner cylinder. I can see no provision on the machine to prevent this so, with Daughter-in-law, and grand daughter's, long hair I just know this will happen again.

Ok, just need to source a new brush and that's the brush problem solved, so why isn't it sucking very well? Took a while to track this down too but got there in the end. The main motor in the body of the device sucks through, what I will call, a "diverter". The inlet to the motor has a "flip/flop" device (it's at the base of the handle) which, with the handle in the upright position, sucks on the flexible hose (for wandering around doing upholstery, curtains, nooks and crannies) and when the handle is lowered so you can do flooring, it "flip/flops" over (you car clearly hear the, quite loud, clicky cracking noise it makes when you move the handle between the two positions) so the suction is applied to the brush unit on the front. I can see the reasoning behind this is so that you get maximum suction to whichever mode you are using the machine in but on this one the diverter was jammed with debris. Clearing the debris (dust and hair again!) restored operation. When fitted with a new brush roll (very expensive genuine parts - my pattern made part was much cheaper and works fine!) I have to say the machine works well now, but really no better than my very ancient Electrolux upright. I have to question though, why two motors? why that diverter valve? why the "above average" expensive spares?

I buy my electical device spares from Edinburgh Components in Leith. Wonderfully helpful people who have never failed to find a part for me and often cheaper than I can find on line! Anyway, when I was in buying the brush bar for the Dyson they joked with me that it must be time for a new brush for "that dreadful old Electrolux" of yours? By now my wife's sister had arrived to take up residence for the Christmas/New Year festivities. She lives in darkest rural Devon and Edinburgh, during the festive period, is absolutely jumping, so she stays for the best part of a month! After the first week or so I'm looking for reasons to "hide" So an overhaul of the Electrolux looked like a brilliant idea. I could "hide" with good reason, for at least a week of so, in the shed and garage! The Electrolux (at least 30 years old) is more power hungry -1000 watts - than the Electrolux but much simpler to work on and was a joy to do. It needed a really good clean up (it was filthy inside - but was still sucking well) I gave it a new brush bar and drive belt (I do find original Electrolux belts are best but buy pattern parts for bags etc.) I also found cracks in the original flexible hose and the wee one that connects the brush housing to the main hose - running under the machine. The EC people actually supplied me with genuine Electrolux parts at a very good price. They were surprised to find they had them in stock as they hadn't been asked for them "in living memeory". I suspect they were pleased to find a "home" for them! The outcome has been wonderful, the new brush in particular has improved pickup (which was never poor anyway). The only thing the Dyson has I'd really like is the "rollerball" concept. which does make it easier to use in tight corners - but, oh dear, the added complexity! I'll take the Electrolux every day.

To round off this trio, last Friday my older boy rang to say "Dad, the hoover's dead! Can you fix it?" We were going out for a family meal that night so he popped it in his boot and I took it off him at the restaurant. It's a "Henry" one of the older 2 speed ones. It took less than half an hour to find that the fuse and power lead were OK. There was power getting to the on/off switch (simple multimeter checks) and the switch itself had continuity but the motor didn't run. Checked wiring from switch to motor and motor brush condition (the brushes are so easily removed it seemed silly not to check them out and the commutator segments at the same time.) All OK. So all that's left is the two speed switch and PCB. Checked the switch for continuity and it seemed OK so must be the PCB? Gawd, how do I check that? But hang on, if that's all that's wrong the motor should run if I just bypass the PCB shouldn't it? The motor plate states it's a 230V a/c motor. So, OK, one motor terminal wired to one side of switch and the other to the other (if you see what I mean) Plugged into my garage RCD and flipped the machine's switch. Whooo hooo! Henry lives! Another visit to EC on the Monday where I found the PCB isn't cheap. But again the EC people came to the rescue with "The new ones (latest versions of "Henry") are mostly now single speed you know!" Apparently it's not uncommon to do the "mod" I'd just done. So this is now a "one speed Henry" When I handed it back to them yesterday, my boy - who, like me - seems to do most of the hoovering (but my Mrs has the excuse of a bad back, male chauvinist that I am) told me he uses it on "HI" suction most of the time anyway. Maybe Numatic (Henry's makers) found this to be how most people use them hence the new ones being single speed? You see so many Henrys around being used professionally and they seem to have a "legendary" reputation for being robust that I tried him out on the hall carpet after "fixing" him. The results were impressive. The carpet looked as good as when done with the Electrolux. You do have to be a bit more "physical" as there is no beater brush so you tend to adopt a back and forward scrubbing action but my word does he suck (in a good way!)

The conclusion I've reached is that if the Electrolux breaks I'll be buying a Henry - or maybe a James as he has a simpler cabling set up. I always wondered how well the pickup would be on this type of head where there is no rotating brush but Henry worked very well on the hall carpet and the machine is so simple to fix a child could (almost) do it! Find a supplier like my EC and you're fixed for parts too! So, big smile on face!
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My sister (former owner of my Panda) just got a new old car (as she does) but this time itís an older Audi A4.

Thatís two Zafiraís, a Mazda 6, Astra and now this since 2015.

And none of them made it to as many mines or as many years old at the Fiat.

Iím betting the A4 will be the same.
Yes but she also got rid of the panda....
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The conclusion I've reached is that if the Electrolux breaks I'll be buying a Henry - or maybe a James as he has a simpler cabling set up. I always wondered how well the pickup would be on this type of head where there is no rotating brush but Henry worked very well on the hall carpet and the machine is so simple to fix a child could (almost) do it! Find a supplier like my EC and you're fixed for parts too! So, big smile on face!
Very long post so didn't quote the whole thing. I have a Henry I bought in 2003 brand new (£85 at the time) this has lasted extremely well, never broken down, was used for a while commercially when I had a cleaning contract for some flats in the mid 2000s, got dropped down stairs several times and still carried on working, they are seemingly indestructible.

My wife however hate Cylinder Vacuums and a few years ago a friend of hers was moving in with their partner and had just bought a Dyson ball vacuum and simply gave it to my wife unused as they had two of everything between them. This has also lasted extremely well but is obviously not as well built as Henry. In any case the Henry was relegated to the cupboard in the utility and the Dyson now gets used for everything. A couple of years ago the Henry was being used for cars but I bought a hand held Dyson thing which also proved to be very good and now The poor Henry lives in the cupboard unused for a few years, Still can't bring myself to get rid of it though as I know one day the Dyson will break and it will be needed once more.
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Yes but she also got rid of the panda....
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In any case the Henry was relegated to the cupboard in the utility Ö and now The poor Henry lives in the cupboard unused for a few years,
Henry's just gathering dust now ?

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Very long post so didn't quote the whole thing. I have a Henry I bought in 2003 brand new (£85 at the time) this has lasted extremely well, never broken down, was used for a while commercially when I had a cleaning contract for some flats in the mid 2000s, got dropped down stairs several times and still carried on working, they are seemingly indestructible.

My wife however hate Cylinder Vacuums and a few years ago a friend of hers was moving in with their partner and had just bought a Dyson ball vacuum and simply gave it to my wife unused as they had two of everything between them. This has also lasted extremely well but is obviously not as well built as Henry. In any case the Henry was relegated to the cupboard in the utility and the Dyson now gets used for everything. A couple of years ago the Henry was being used for cars but I bought a hand held Dyson thing which also proved to be very good and now The poor Henry lives in the cupboard unused for a few years, Still can't bring myself to get rid of it though as I know one day the Dyson will break and it will be needed once more.
Ive got a few Dyson cylinders.
1st bought new.. was @£220.. DAFT money arent they.. at least this was long enough ago to be British..

Couple of years ago.. needed a 2nd.

Quick trawl of Ebay.
2 for £1.. non working.

So no 'tools'

Got the impression they had been used commercially.

1 was Dead.. quick inspection found jetblack splashes throughout..

It had ingested liquid.. its two brush packs in motor are mounted at '12 and six' the low one had obviously succumbed to softening..hence black smudges.

£7 BRUSH SET..SORTED.

other got a good clean.. was running in 10 mins.. seemed ok. So Went indoors.

Later the 'panda driver' tested it.. had flex at FULL extension.. kept cutting out.

After investigation.. had obviously spent its life like this.

The cable .. being tugged at 90' to the plug was fractured wriggling : make -break)

So ..lopped off 4" past plug.. fitted new plug.. faultless for 2 years.

We have 'Enerys' at work.. they seem so feeble..
but of course.. thats how they just keep going.

1.1 FIRE anyone..
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To my gain!
The argument here is she could have scrapped the panda and that would have been the end of it, it wouldnít have done as many miles as it now has.

You could have taken one or all of the other cars and they would have lasted longer.

The panda didnít outlast the other cars, she binned it just like she binned the others, what kept the panda still going was you, you can pretty much do that with any car.
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"Rule of Three" strikes again! This time it's vacuum cleaners.

I have to question though, why two motors?
My 'old' vacuum cleaner is an Electrolux 345 cylinder, bought in 1979. Still working well, but relegated to the garage for car cleaning and DIY cleaning up.

The 'new' one, is again an Electrolux, but much later, bought in 1989! The decadence. I still like using this one, it sucks well and is very free on its wheels, so quite manoeuvrable.
This one has a brush head that powers its rotating brush from the air rushing through. It works ok, but thicker carpets can slow it down or even stop it rotating.

For minor spills, we have had two Black & Decker hand-helds. Rechargeable rubbish that make a lot of noise, and struggle to pick up anything. I've always hated them, but there was 'insistence'.
After two broken arms, two years apart, I have to do all the main 'hoovering'. A replacement for the hand-held needed to be as light as possible. So reluctantly we now have a Dyson 'stick'. This is a hand-held when required, and has a long tube for floors and ceilings. Expensive, but at least it does suck, whereas the previous battery things were pathetic.
The Dyson does do a great job on carpets, not I believe as a result of its wonderful motor, but because the rotating brush is powered, so does a better job at lifting the fluff off the carpet. (Sorry took a long time to get here.) Downside, the pot is way too small, and for one room, needs emptying four times. Interesting to see the latest Dyson ads highlight a larger pot, perhaps a response to my mentioning it when I was there doing driver training with their security people.

So that's why the head is powered, it helps the rest look better.
Certainly not as well made as either of the Electrolux ones.
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Another reason to smile.

Had a win on Wednesday's lottery.
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Found out some things about "Henry" since posting that, somewhat long, post a couple of days ago, which brought a big grin to my lips. I was worrying, as I do, that bypassing the PCB on my boy's Henry hoover so he runs at "HI" speed all the time might cause him to overheat or otherwise malfunction. Rang Numatic (the manufacturer) and spoke with their technical department. The phone was answered by a very helpful chap with a delightfully broad west country accent!
If I've understood this correctly it seems that Henry's 1200 watt motor has been used for years and the older machines were simply on/off. Then, trying to be more environmentally aware, they introduced the PCB so that the machine initially defaults to around 900W but if you push the "HI" button it feeds full power to the motor which speeds up, sucks more and runs at 1200w. So running the motor with the PCB bypassed shouldn't cause any problems - They all ran like that years ago. The newer machines, it would seem, have a redesigned motor and impeller design which runs one speed only but pulls only 620w. Apparently it has about the same ability to suck due to the motor being more modern and improvements in the impeller design. As I said in that post a few days ago, if my Electrolux becomes unrepairable I'll be replacing it with a Henry or James (even simpler design and lighter) in which case it will be interesting to compare suction.

This phone call and all this stuff about legal limits on wattage to "save the planet" got me to thinking about our own, 20 year old? Electrolux Powerline 1000. I've never really looked at it's power consumption but the name is probably self evident? and yes, its 1000w max but also 900w nom - or so the plate says?
Nom? maybe nominal? does that mean it under no load? such as when the brush is not being driven? if so why quote it because the brush is driven all the time? Who knows and does it matte

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The machine is very simple. Nice powerful motor provides plenty of suction which is applied to the container with the bag in it - nice big bag too. The top of the bag container has a hole through which the flexible hose exits.
You can either fit attachments to the end of this hose for cleaning nooks and crannies, curtains, upholstery etc, or plug it into the base in which case it sucks on the brush unit casing. The roller brush is turned by a belt driven from the end of the motor spindle - so all very conventional but it works well and spares are cheap and available.

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The only aspect I can really critisize is that it's made of plastic so, over the years various bits have broken off! However the only functional bit so far which broke was the main pivot between the body and the base (brush) casing. The motor spindle runs through the middle of this to drive the belt. When first it happened I really thought the end of the road had come but after sleeping on it I managed to repair it using a section of wash basin waste pipe which was almost exactly the right diameter! Couple of years down the line and she's still going strong!

I also have a couple of much older machines. So, with Henry at 1200w (or 900w on "saving") and the Electrolux on 1000w were the much older machines more power hungry?

Here's the very old Electrolux cylinder machine which we inherited from Mrs J's parents when they passed on:

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It's beautifully over engineered and weighs about half a ton. The hose is pathetically inflexible when compared with newer machines - but has never needed to be renewed! We keep it as an emergency spare "just in case". I love the quality of the fittings, the casting quality on the end plates and many other features but in particular the name plate with it's "Works Luton Beds" and "by appointment" inscription. I tend to use it for sucking up filler dust and the like on the infrequent occasions that Mrs J manages to cajole me into decorating (which i absolutely loathe).

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So how much power does it use? surprisingly 270 watts!

When we were young and impecunious we were gifted an old wardrobe with two drawers in it's base. It was a very welcome gift and when we got it home I found this old vacuum inside (it had been roped up in an old blanket to protect it) The owners didn't want it "Just chuck it son". Even then it was very old so I was about to "chuck it" but thought "Hmmmm. I wonder?" so plugged it in, stood well back and flicked the switch with a wooden stick. It ran fine!

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It is nothing like the quality of the Electrolux. In fact it was made by Bylock Electrical Ltd Enfield. So British! Gave it a good clean up and checked the cabling and switch etc. All OK so I've used it for the cars ever since - that's at least 40 years! I love the transfer - very "Flash Gordon"

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And the power requirement? 300 watts!

Both these older machines are remarkably quiet in operation, noticeably more so than modern machines, and suck really well but are badly let down by their dust bags.

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The bags are made of fabric and are reusable. Quite good, surprisingly perhaps, at catching the dust but they clog up quickly. With a really clean bag you get about 10 minutes on the larger Electrolux machine and only about 5 on the wee Bylock before performance falls off and you need to clean the bag. It's not that the bags are full, the fabric just clogs up. Come to think of it I should go and see if the helpful people at EC can supply a modern bag that would fit.

Using these old machines and hearing them run so smoothly and quietly just puts the biggest smile on my face!
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The Henry range is quite good, Years ago we needed a high flow vacuum pump for a machine in a situation where it might get some moisture through it. Our usual pump supplier could do one but it was expensive. During early R&D I'd used the machine shop "Charles" wet & dry vacuum cleaner. So I had a look inside and the motor/pump "cartridge" looked ideal so bought a new one and it worked great. Funny thing was while they sell the pump as a spare, by the time you bought the pump and the mounting rubbers it was cheaper to buy the whole cleaner retail and take the parts out. Selling the hoses and tools on ebay kept the tea swindle well stocked
At home we have a Miele which is great.

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The 'fabric' hose of the old Electrolux may actually be rubber, wrapped in fabric. Certainly the later ones were, and as they age, the rubber becomes porous, but this is not visible. My father had one inherited from his parents, and it was useless, and a label declaring around 300w. A new hose transformed it, as all the suck arrived at the head.

All the cylinder vacs I've come across with a cloth dustbag also used a paper bag within the cloth one. The cloth bag was a sort of container to hold the paper bag, preventing it just 'exploding'. It is quite likely that those older ones were intended to use paper bags too, unless they pre-date the porous paper used for the bags.

What a great thread. Never mind diagnosing Fiats, let's talk old vacuum cleaners.

When we moved to South Oxfordshire, the house we bought came with an old Hoover upright. Some may remember the ones with the light on the front, for looking under furniture. I tried it, it was poorly.
The drive belt for the brush was so old and stretched it just slipped.
The paper dustbag was so old, it had split so many times, and been mended with parcel tape. There was only about two square inches of paper left visible, so little air could pass through. I guess the value of the parcel tape might have been as much as the cost of new bags. Repaired by someone with no understanding about how it worked.
A new belt, dismantle and a thorough clean, some new paper bags, and it worked well. 8 years later, when we sold the house to a young couple, struggling to afford their purchase, we left it behind for them. By that time we had two others anyway.
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Aaah, PB, a paper bag inside! didn't know that! I feel a chat with the boys and girls at EC might be most advantageous!
Thanks for that
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PS they both suck fine, just the fabric bags block up quickly
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