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Re: What's made you smile today? (Part II)

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Anyone used any of Mister-Auto's Bolk branded stuff? Any good? Although I think I'll stay with names I know so off vicarious interest only.
Not been brave enough to use Bolk, and have seen one review of something where the buyer was very disappointed, so for me not worth the risk, especially when they do known brands at such good prices.

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Its good when you find a supplier you like, I swear by GSF (german, Swedish, french) having owned Saabs in the past, however these days they sell anything for any car, walk in the door and they will always knock a few quid off.
I check GSF frequently, but their basic pricing seems so expensive. As they and Euro are a bit of a trek away, I prefer to know the stuff is there before leaving home, so not yet bought from them.

Euro will often have cheaper prices in store than on the internet, so only use them when stuff needed urgently.
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I'm sitting in Pizza Hut watching people outside. A young lad and his girlfriend arrived and came in for a takeaway, returning to the car with it.
They then sat in the car eating it. I'm wondering why sit in the car when the restaurant is there, but then, if in the early stages of their relationship, might want to be more private.
Any guesses as to how long they've been together?
Then another reason for being outside became apparent. He's not allowed to smoke in the restaurant, but he can in his car. He lit a cigarette. His girlfriend stepped out of the car, with the pizza box, to continue her meal without smoke. He stayed put in the driver's seat.
Any guesses as to how long the relationship might last?
I had this issue with a girl a few months ago, found out she smoked......

No excuse for people in my generation anyway as I can remember having to feature in assemblies as early as primary school about why smoking is bad... guess some people must have forgotten the message lol
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even though at 12 years old they still felt better than the 1yr old Fiesta!
It's funny because every time I mention getting another Panda people jump to the phrase:

"Why don't you get yourself a better car........like a Fiesta or a Polo.

They'd never believe there's a person out there who has a Panda and a Fiesta and legitimately prefers the Panda. But when I see you make the comparison does bring a smile!
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Ford and vw have successfully brainwashed the UK into thinking their products are far superior. Let the idiots get ripped off with them, whilst we get a far better deal on a used Fiat.
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Unless of course you want a 5 door super mini with about 100bhp+..

In which case Fiat can supply you with nada.
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Until recently, Fiat made a 5 door supermini, just not with 100bhp. Fingers crossed, they'll give us a new supermini in the not too distant future.
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Until recently, Fiat made a 5 door supermini, just not with 100bhp. Fingers crossed, they'll give us a new supermini in the not too distant future.
Soooooo What he said.......

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Unless of course you want a 5 door super mini with about 100bhp+..
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I find it hard to fathom the direction the company has taken. I assume it ends with FCA sacking the brand off for everything that isn't a 500. They then go concentrate on the high end brands in the group where selling one of them will rake in more profit than 1000 puntos.

That and the strategy is odd..we'll do a platform share with Mazda..shall we borrow the under pinnings of the Mazda 2 (itself Ford Fiesta based) to make the badly needed Punto replacement? Do we borrow the oily bits of a 3 so the Tipo can have independent rear suspension at a price point where a Golf uses a delightfully rustic torsion bar set up? Maybe we'll get some nice modern reliable DI engines? Nah none we'll take the under pinnings of a car that owns the market it effectively re-created after the death of the British sports car and fit it with an engine that harks back to the 80s. That'll answer a question one bloke may have asked once in a pub..
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I find it hard to fathom the direction the company has taken.
What they are doing with the Alfa brand at the moment is mad, they've gone from producing some generally boring, family cars in the 90s and 2000s, then its like they decided one day, we make these boring family cars that few people want and no one is buying them because the depreciation is just terrible.... Lets fit them with a really, really big engine and make them twice as expensive, that will cure all our sales problems.

Will also fit that really big engine into a brand new 4x4 that will immediately go head to head with our already big engined 4x4 the Maserati Levante, which already doesn't sell in any significant numbers and is in direct competition with a million other big expensive 4x4s.

Well thats the R&D budget gone for the next 10 years so we'll spruce up the 500 with a facelift and we'll keep plodding on with the already 12 year old punto design letting the once popular line die a painful death, and what else? I Know lets relaunch a dead model in the Tipo which no one was really asking for and wasn't needed in the current line up, as well as directly competing with the punto, while saying that that segment of the market is saturated. Then to push the sales of the tipo we will do absolutely nothing at all.

Realistically what they should have done is launched a 3 and 5 door Tipo and called it the Punto, The saloon version can be called the Linea, and not bothered with an estate. Then filled the range with 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 turbo petrol engines and a 1.3 and 1.6 diesel and everyone would have been happy.
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In some ways the similar 4x4s and shared engines make sense, spread your development spend around. As kind of does the push up market, engineering costs are not massively different between a big car and a small car (unless you are building something bonkers) but the profit margin is. Also it's not odd for someone to spend a Dacia Sandero in options on those style of cars. Means you can sell fewer and make the same money, when your mass market cars don't sell maybe it makes sense to take a punt on something more exotic and if it sells a 10th a many you'll have made as much money back as would for the same investment in a supermini or ordinary car.

I seem to recall reading an article on VW group at one point, they make about 0.5% profit per unit on a VW..20% on a Porsche and you would assume even more on a Bentley. But you do need the brand to carry the asking price.
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Turning a 10 quid charge for my mistake on ordering a pram into a 90 quid refund with 5 emails and a little bit of research.

Being polite and concise when dealing with customer services and being ready with facts goes a long way.
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Being asked to identify the cause of a "burned rubber" smell and an occasional "ting" noise from a 2004 Panda 1.2, (not mine) on a Sunday, with nowhere useful open nearby.
Car running fine, no other symptoms (other than a gentle air of mechanical neglect).

Tracked it down to the Cambelt and Tensioner.

Not sure if you can see from the picture, but the tensioner had collapsed (the ting noise was the ball bearings getting fired about inside the cambelt cover), and the belt was shredding itself (in places it was completely split down the middle).

Even with all that going on the little Panda just kept on going...

Took a while to clean out the rubber dust and shreds, but otherwise just a new belt and tensioner, easy job.

Would have done the waterpump, but the only one I had was not the right sort. The old one looked like original (as did the belt) so I may have to revisit that at some point.

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Being asked to identify the cause of a "burned rubber" smell and an occasional "ting" noise from a 2004 Panda 1.2, (not mine) on a Sunday, with nowhere useful open nearby.
Car running fine, no other symptoms (other than a gentle air of mechanical neglect).

Tracked it down to the Cambelt and Tensioner.

Not sure if you can see from the picture, but the tensioner had collapsed (the ting noise was the ball bearings getting fired about inside the cambelt cover), and the belt was shredding itself (in places it was completely split down the middle).

Even with all that going on the little Panda just kept on going...

Took a while to clean out the rubber dust and shreds, but otherwise just a new belt and tensioner, easy job.

Would have done the waterpump, but the only one I had was not the right sort. The old one looked like original (as did the belt) so I may have to revisit that at some point.

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Astonishing to think of this still running relatively quietly! Any markings still readable on the belt? It would be interesting to know what brand it is. I'm fascinated by the idea of the ball bearings "tinging" around inside the belt covers!
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No readable markings on the belt. 3 or 4 BBs dropped out when I removed the lower part of the cover. It is likely the tinging noise was the missing BBs making a bid for freedom, as there were only 8 left inside the cover, and the noise hasn't recurred.
I did a pretty thorough check for impact damage - nothing visible.
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Got an emergency 'phone call from my older boy's wife last thing last night. Her Dad's shifts had been changed last minute (they are younger than us and still working) and he can't pick up the boy(grandson) after school so can we do it? Mrs Jock has a lunch date with her cronies but I can do it. Oh, and by the way, can I take her car for a drive when she gets home as it's making a funny noise when you turn right.

So, even though it was wet for some of the time, we had a fun afternoon, chocolate buns, pop and after a bit of trampolining (well, he did the jumping, I did the enthusiastic supporting) and watching Men in Black on a DVD, Mum returned home. (Dad still at work).

Luckily there is a handy roundabout at the end of their road so right hand turning was easy. I was expecting to hear maybe a wheel bearing - it's a diesel Fabia so heavy in the front - or maybe a brake pad doing something "funny" but no! A quite strange, cyclical, rubbing sort of noise. There was a certain familiarity to it but my memory just couldn't place it. Anyway, back to their house, jack it up a side at a time with the car's own one legged jack (my but those things are wobbly!) After about 15 minutes still none the wiser. Ok let's try another run. Off round the roundabout another half dozen times with some very strange looks from people walking up from the bus stop.

Well, it's definitely cycling at about the right speed to be drive shaft, CV, Wheel bearing, wheel, tyre related. You know, at a stretch of the imagination it might sound a little "rubbery"? Wonder if it could be the CV gaiter Painted both gaiters with dilute dish washer liquid. Off round the roundabout again. Oh bother! No change.

As I'm lying on the pavers of the drive - luckily dry now 'cos I'm in good everyday clothes - the NS front wheel is only inches away from my nose and I notice the tyre is one of the types with the extra thick, wide, bead. You know the type that is supposed to give some protection to the wheel rim if curbed. I'm noticing that there is a small gap between this strip and the rim, from about 7 o'clock on the rim right round to about 5 o'clock but no gap at the bottom, due, not surprisingly, to the weight of the vehicle compressing the tyre. Could it be this part of the tyre fretting against the rim? Then I remembered that I'd heard a similar noise, many years ago, made by an old, hard tyre fretting against the metal clip of a balance weight. Ok, squirt some of the washing up mixture round the bead area of the wheel/tyre. Off round the roundabout again. No one watching by now, they've all gone home! Oh No! The noise is still there! Still sure I'm on the right track though.

Back to the house, getting late now and a good 3/4 hour drive home still. Don't know if I can face that one legged jack again. Oh come on, man up you wimp! So jacked up OSF wheel turned full lock and sprayed soapy solution all round inside rim/tyre area. Repeat for NS. Off round the roundabout again. Can't believe it, no noise, absolutely no trace of it!

So it was the inner tyre bead fretting against the rim when under load. As it only did it on right turns I'm betting it's the NSF tyre which is at fault. If the tyre didn't have the built in rim protection I don't think it would exhibit this fault. This tyre is near the end of its life but I can see no visual problems with it. I would guess the rubber is hardening up with age now though which is likely to be exacerbating the effect. MOT due in 3weeks so I think a couple of new tyres are probably called for.

Feeling happy that daughter in law is at no risk on her journey to work tomorrow and ecstatic at having found the problem, I was grinning all the way home!
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