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Thumbs up Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

apart from finding this ad incredibly funny (big fan of lock stock and snatch) it also carries a really important message, which i wanted to make sure everyone of the forum had the chance to see


basically guidelines have changed and its much better to do compression only CPR than have bystanders not try anything for fear of giving mouth to mouth (to be fair you push a certain amount of air in and out of the lungs during CPR

So enjoy the video, take in its message and hopefully it might make a difference should the occasion ever arise.
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

Take in its advice, far too many people are afraid to get it wrong, when realistically you can't
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

I'm presuming this is aimed at people with no previous First Aid training, did my 2 day course 2 years ago and booked in for my refresher course next month and they still teach mouth to mouth resuscitation. A colleague did his 6hour emergency first aid at work at he was taught it.

I can see why their advising on compression only CPR but why continue teach otherwise
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

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Take in its advice, far too many people are afraid to get it wrong, when realistically you can't

I broke the dummy i was practicing on... god forbid it was a little old lady.
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

You don't need the mouth to mouth bit because its not the lack of oxygen that is the problem its the increasing Carbon Dioxide concentration inside the body. And I also don't know why the video says 'it ain't hard' because it is really. You need to be doing compressions with a fair amount of force to have the desired effect. But then still, something is better than nothing I suppose.
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

the UK Resuscitation council Guidelines say that hands only resus is ok because somebody doing something in the way of CPR is better than doing nothing at all.

When it comes to teaching in first aid classes it is assumed you are there because
1) you want to be, and
2) you want to learn a little more than the very basics,
some of these classes don't even like to teach taking a pulse these days because a member of the public might confuse their own pulse.
mouth to mouth is still more effective than hands only but in out of hospital cardiac arrest the majority of preventable deaths are down to people not wanting to do CPR because of the stigma of giving mouth to mouth to a complete stranger. the act of CPR will still move some air in and out of the lungs and it might be enough to keep someone perfused until the paramedics or more qualified help at least, arrives.

also in your classes they will teach you that you DO NOT HAVE to do mouth to mouth if you feel it would be unsafe for you to do so such as blood or vomit round the mouth of the patient

Me and my partner both work in health care so resus training and drills is a pretty big part of our life which is why we're are pretty passionate about people doing something rather than nothing which is what this campaign aims to improve.

however if you want to know how to do things properly then Super Sexy CPR is the video you want
(Mods please don't remove this video its actually a Very good demonstration of correct CPR proceedures )
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I broke the dummy i was practicing on... god forbid it was a little old lady.
I was told its a good sign if you break the persons ribs, shows that you are doing it hard enough.
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I was told its a good sign if you break the persons ribs, shows that you are doing it hard enough.
Ive heard this too, and also, people would generally have broken ribs than be dead
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

Was just reading about how to cpr in my Uni lecture then i came across this thread. Very helpful to be honest.

Note: to those of you wearing tight trousers/sat at a desk/about to present a meeting or anyone in such a position where an increasing presence of your manhood will be in clear view, DO NOT watch the super sexy cpr!
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Im sure i heard at my first aid course that someone performed CPR and did it so vigorously that the person actually sued their life saver :|
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

There's some sick f***s in the world...
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Im sure i heard at my first aid course that someone performed CPR and did it so vigorously that the person actually sued their life saver :|
in America they have the Good Samaritan Act which protects bystanders from being sued for provided help in critical situations.
in the UK we don't this however no one has ever successfully sued in the uk in this manor as its hard to argue somebody injured you, when you would other wise have been dead.

given how unlikely you are to survive an out of hospital cardiac arrest (or in hospital for that matter), the fact they where alive to sue meant that who ever performed CPR must have done it well and thus can't be sued.

thats not to say people haven't tried
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Im sure i heard at my first aid course that someone performed CPR and did it so vigorously that the person actually sued their life saver :|
No one in the UK has been sued for using CPR on someone. People have been saying it for years that its happened, but that question was asked during my first aid training with the Police and they both said it hadn't happened, pretty sure they would have heard if someone did.
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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

even if they wernt succesful, the act of trying to sue a person who saved their life is crazy.

"thank you so much for saving my life, I owe my life to you...but I do hurt a bit now so you owe me some £££££"

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Re: Hands only CPR it ain't hard.

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