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Old 17-04-2005   #1
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People suck!

Well, not everybody, but yet again I have let myself get walked all over....

We have a VB group project in for next friday, had since before easter but considering we live over distances of 300miles and VB is difficult to do not face to face, we only started properly friday.

So far me and one other (out of 4) has done all the work, sadly the work that the other guy put in was wrong so i had to re-do it, i have done all the report so far (5 pages at this point plus an excel file, taught myself chi etc.) *damn fire alarm just went off, 20 mins stood outside....*

Anyway, I have worked so hard to get all my other work done, the others haven't. Outcome? I have done the other work and am just left with the VB group project. The others are "too busy doing other work" so yep, I am left with the VB

Just needed to rant somewhere.

NB: the guy who did the work is a good guy for doing anything so it's not an attack at him - he just misunderstood the point of what we were doing.
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on our group projects, we have a peer assement - where you all agree how much percent each other did. Sounds like you need to do something like that.
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Ah, looking at the grading:

Final grade for the project will be:
1. 40% Visual Basic program (See “Grading.doc”)
2. 40% Final report (See “Assessment Guide 3rd Year Laboratory”)
3. 20% Self-Assessment


I thought it was the last one, but nope, that's self-assessment. The thing is, if i hadn't done any of my work or not told them tthen it simply wouldn't get done...
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Look after yourself Paul. Don't carry them along.
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Ihaven't a choice, if I don't swim I will sink with them all, if i swim I will tread water for the lot of them

You can tell I am a science type
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Sorry to hear Paul, but go with Steve's advice.

You will find in life some people blow, too. They are the nice ones
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I had that happen many times at school and uni Fact of life as others have said, if you feel very bad about the situation have a word with your tutor though I am sure if they know you and your classmates well enough they will realise once they read it that you have done the bulk of the work. Or just stick your own name on it
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you see.. uni does prepare you for life!!

some peeps are tossers... sadly youl find them everywhere...
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Re: People suck!

Well I finished the second part of the VB (so now done half of the project or there abouts).

I was so pleased (best bit of programming I have done so far!) so sent it to my group:

Paul says:
Guess what?! I have made part2, I'll send it:
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Transfer of "part2working.frm" is complete.


That was 15 mins ago, he accepted then said nothing. Not "oh well done that helps the group", not "that's **** I could do better"

Nothing.

Helz, I am working with "mates" - I expected more of a team effort to be honest.
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Don't sound like people I'd want as my mates to be honest! If you've made every effort to share out the work then I dont' see any option but to see whoever is running this course.

It's up to you but personally I could never cover for someone to the extent of putting their name on it when they didn't contribute!
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Paul. If there is any justice, the people not doing the work will also not be doing any work for any of their other subjects/modules either. So they're going to fail... It a bit anoying, but if you do the work and get the grade, at least you know the others weren't carying you. Next time you get group work, you should try and pick nerdy looking people with no friends, you'll get more done that way

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yeah People suck! except when i need food
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Thanks for all your support everybody

Alex, what I expect will happen is that since they have to do less work they may do their other work better and come out on top. No matter what I do, I will lose out. This is why I dislike group work so much and guess what? FOllowing next week we have a two week group design project. God I hope I get a good group! Trouble is, there are a lot of people like the above and then a lot of arrogant people also, all of which are problematic to work with with my attitude.

The nerdy people can't communicate and/or are the arrogant people.
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Paul, my mate was in exactly the same position in the second year, we had a group C project to do, I was lucky my group all worked, my mate got stuck with a lad who, like your mate, tried but was crap, and a girl who did absolutely f**k all!

She wouldn't even bother herself to turn up to discuss progress, in the end the grand sum of her contribution was to sign her name at the bottom of the submission.

The group scored 69%, a grade which all three was awarded.

As a result, the same girl has continued to be a right lazy b***h whenever involved in group work, instead concentrating on her individual work, and letting others pick up her slack, as a result she has done very well and is on for a 1st this year.

The moral is, my mate, instead of being nice, should have said 'f**k this tart' and told his tutor the problems he had working with her in the first place, if I were you thats what I'd do.

I know you say these guys are your mates, but one thing I have learnt is that uni is full of fair weather friends, who will pick you up, use you, then put you down and in three years time when you leave you will quite probably never see again.

Sack them off, there's a good chance they'll fail and be kicked out anyhow
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We just did two hours (f-ing hell, i had to practically force them, one went home even though he knew and only came when both of us insisted, the other guy is "ill") and got nowhere, anybody who knows VB knows to save all the time since if your program runs to infinity (sometimes happens) and you close, your lose everything. This happened at the end.

I do believe however that we are the only group to have done anything, since I now have done half of the project, I feel I can happily let them finish it if i have to.
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