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pooroldcodger said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-Muslim-woman-want-burkha-banned-streets.html
Why does it take a Muslim to make this point?
Answer: because nobody else dare.
Discuss.
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IMO it is something the Muslim community should resolve, the lady in the article is Muslim and feels being forced to wear these clothes is oppression, our Government stands against oppression allegedly. The clothing is SUPPOSED to be a representation of religeous beleif, it is questionable to Western society wether it has a place in "monitored Britain" where cameras are all over the place and presents the authorities with the same issues as Hoodies.

My questions though are, without malice... :-

Where is the balance? In Muslim countries holidaymakers are reviled and sometimes punished for wearing scanty beachwear.
What happened to "When in Rome...." blah blah....
And I guess the bottom line is who makes the rules and are they for the majority (as in a democracy) or for the ethnic minority?

Debate.... :)
 
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I have to agree they should ban it reason being they are in the british country they should o bide by our rules thats if we do eventually ban it completely.

If i was to walk into a shop (me being british born and bread) wearing a hoodie i would be told to take it off or leave the shop.

So why should these people be allowed to come into the british country and be allowed to do what they want and what they say.
 
Ffoxy said:
IMO it is something the Muslim community should resolve, the clothing is a representation of religeous beleif, it is questionable to Western society wether it has a place in "monitored Britain" where cameras are all over the place and presents the authorities with the same issues as Hoodies.

My questions though are, without malice... :-

Where is the balance? In Muslim countries holidaymakers are reviled and sometimes punished for wearing scanty beachwear.
What happened to "When in Rome...." blah blah....
And I guess the bottom line is who makes the rules and are they for the majority (as in a democracy) or for the ethnic minority?

Debate.... :)
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you say its there religion that maybe so but if there was a burglary in a shop/bank etc for instance how will they know there identity.. they wont which will then be able to ban it.
 
unimatrix1 said:
you say its there religion that maybe so but if there was a burglary in a shop/bank etc for instance how will they know there identity.. they wont which will then be able to ban it.
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As I said... or referred to, my argument is balanced, I have seen yours before.... they are not.
 
unimatrix1 said:
I have to agree they should ban it reason being they are in the british country they should o bide by our rules thats if we do eventually ban it completely.

If i was to walk into a shop (me being british born and bread) wearing a hoodie i would be told to take it off or leave the shop.

So why should these people be allowed to come into the british country and be allowed to do what they want and what they say.
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Burkas don't break British rules.
The debate is over what they symbolise. Religous belief or sexual descrimination.
 
President Sarkozy is absolutely right to say: 'If you want to live here, live like us.'

there in our country live like we do.. we dont go around covered from head to toe..

Venters said:
Burkas don't break British rules.
The debate is over what they symbolise. Religous belief or sexual descrimination.
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thats correct we have no rules thats why everyone does what the heck they want all except the british race..

i feel like im the immigrant here and not in a country where i was born and brought up

this is why most of the british people are moving and living abroad now
 
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Ffoxy said:
IMO it is something the Muslim community should resolve, the lady in the article is Muslim and feels being forced to wear these clothes is oppression, our Government stands against oppression allegedly. The clothing is SUPPOSED to be a representation of religeous beleif, it is questionable to Western society wether it has a place in "monitored Britain" where cameras are all over the place and presents the authorities with the same issues as Hoodies.

My questions though are, without malice... :-

Where is the balance? In Muslim countries holidaymakers are reviled and sometimes punished for wearing scanty beachwear.
What happened to "When in Rome...." blah blah....
And I guess the bottom line is who makes the rules and are they for the majority (as in a democracy) or for the ethnic minority?

Debate.... :)
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My contribution:
The Burkha was designed for the desert and has no clear basis in religion.
The wearing of the Burkha is divisive and ensures that integration can never happen.
The Muslim religion is totally against women, and the Burkha is just an extension of that oppression.
I feel great sympathy for the woman underneath it because I am quite sure that they are just being bullied by the husband at home.
So therefore banning it here would actually do the majority of women a big favour.
Above all, it is unhealthy if we can't even discuss the matter.
 
unimatrix1 said:
President Sarkozy is absolutely right to say: 'If you want to live here, live like us.'

there in our country live like we do.. we dont go around covered from head to toe..



thats correct we have no rules thats why everyone does what the heck they want all except the british race..

i feel like im the immigrant here and not in a country where i was born and brought up

this is why most of the british people are moving and living abroad now
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Petty point I know, but odds are that those immigrants can use words in proper context and apply punctuation and capital letters correctly where required, there is more to being British than being a racially motivated, ranting keyboard warrior...
 
unimatrix1 said:
President Sarkozy is absolutely right to say: 'If you want to live here, live like us.'

there in our country live like we do.. we dont go around covered from head to toe..



thats correct we have no rules thats why everyone does what the heck they want all except the british race..

i feel like im the immigrant here and not in a country where i was born and brought up

this is why most of the british people are moving and living abroad now
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No we may not go around dressed in black from head to toe. But just as many go around dressed in stupid looking track suits drinking £1 a litre Cider. Causing more trouble than all Muslins put together. Hell I'll bet even the total casualties from 7/7 are out classed by the violence in the same year from our "home grown scum".

Yeah I went there and got all pretentious with quote marks. Why, because the majority of Muslims in the UK are UK born and as a result of this are British. Not immigrants
 
Ffoxy said:
Petty point I know, but odds are that those immigrants can use words in proper context and apply punctuation and capital letters correctly where required, there is more to being British than being a racially motivated, ranting keyboard warrior...
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so your saying i cannot discuss this matter.. unless i am all for there side only..
 
unimatrix1 said:
so your saying i cannot discuss this matter.. unless i am all for there side only..
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No I didnt say that, just have a balanced view and be British. I am no Muslim apologist at all, no way, but I do take the view that most are not trouble, nor are they terrorists, the minority MAY be. Sometimes its easy to get scared, feel pressurised to lash out, there are good and bad in every society, you simply cant say every Muslim should do this and that any more than you could against a Scot or Welshman.

Read my Post 3 again, this time think about what it says.... I'm sure a light will come on in your head some time
 
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unimatrix1 said:
thats what i was saying if they cannot live like us then they should just go back to there country where they can live like what the others are like
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Lets imagine, just for fun, that for a strange reason you had to go live in a devout Muslim country. How would you dress?
 
Ffoxy said:
No I didnt say that, just have a balanced view and be British. I am no Muslim apologist at all, no way, but I do take the view that most are not trouble, nor are they terrorists, the minority MAY be. Sometimes its easy to get scared, feel pressurised to lash out, there are good and bad in every society, you simply cant say every Muslim should do this and that any more than you could against a Scot or Welshman.

Read my Post 3 again, this time think about what it says.... I'm sure a light will come on in your head some time
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yeah i just get angry that when i try and put my view on things people start to think negative all because i say what im thinking in my head and straight to the point instead of me going around the houses of rules acts etc.
 
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