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£5000 to help you buy electric car

Lolita said:
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i was thinking that the elecy has to be generated somewhow:rolleyes: :nutter:
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i think il be borrowing the GF's hamster...........:chin:

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Buying an electric car now is a waste of money, wait for Hydrogen fuel cell cars, I think that's the future.
 
Most electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels. Once the inefficiency of transmission through the grid is taken into account, electric cars produce more CO2 per mile than an efficient diesel engine. Politicians just don't seem able to grasp the simple physics involved here but then, most of them have law degrees!
Hybrids are an irrelevance, expensive, heavy and all they do is use petrol/diesel to charge their batteries.
Even £5000 would not induce me to spend a fortune on a useless electric car.
 
Hellcat said:
Electric cars do not reduce emissions. They require electricity which is made by oil, coal and gas powerstations - and electricity is expencive and due to rise in cost!
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You can make more electricity though. Can you make more crude oil?
The Tesla Roadster can do about 200 miles on about £5 of electricity. My Panda can do 500 miles on about £35 of diesel. Electricity may go up in price, but do you think fuel will stay the same? :chin:

doctorchris said:
Most electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels.
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Most, but not all, and it doesn't have to be that way forever (if the government can sort out their policy :rolleyes:). All internal combustion engines burn fossil fuels (excluding biofuels, but we'll ignore them for now)
doctorchris said:
Once the inefficiency of transmission through the grid is taken into account, electric cars produce more CO2 per mile than an efficient diesel engine.
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Do you have a source for that?
 
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I think the goverment need to give up on trying to get us to buy an electric car. were not stupid. wht i think they should do is concentrate on housing electricity, alternative ways of producing that.

Did anyone see the shows Ian Wright did with the fat kids. One kid was the size he was because he eat rubbish and played xbox all day. so he wired the xbox and telly to a dynamo on a tread mill, he then had to run to make telly work, thus losing weight and watching telly. Good i think. this could be done with anything.. rowers, bikes, spinners. The only downfall is if you watch loads of telly or, go on computer a lot you might get tired and there could be no back up. Plus no furniture in house just a gym for a living room
 
hmallett said:
You can make more electricity though. Can you make more crude oil?
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If we suddenly dig up loads of fossil fuel and burn it then it will run out, may last a bit longer, bit its still the same as oil really.

Oil ios still being produced somewhere underground.. so are fossil fuels. just turns out we use more oil than coal.
 
hmallett said:
You can make more electricity though. Can you make more crude oil?
The Tesla Roadster can do about 200 miles on about £5 of electricity. My Panda can do 500 miles on about £35 of diesel. Electricity may go up in price, but do you think fuel will stay the same? :chin:
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Can we make more electricity is the question. We're due to lose about 25% of our electricity over the next 5-10 years as the current nuclear power stations go off-line.
 
CLXCraig said:
If we suddenly dig up loads of fossil fuel and burn it then it will run out, may last a bit longer, bit its still the same as oil really.
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hmallett said:
Oil is a fossil fuel.
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CLXCraig, our survey says? :doh:

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CLXCraig said:
Oil is still being produced somewhere underground...
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hmallett said:
Really, really, really slowly.
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:ROFLMAO:

Only takes a few millions years for rotting vegetation to be turned to oil/ coal :p

On a serious note, they've just been showing electric cars on the news. The G-Wizz car (lawn mower in disguise) has a range of 70 miles. So any place you want to go to beyond that range, well, you can't unless you stop and re-charge for a few hours. Which as people mention requires energy in the form of electricity. Which has to be produced somewhere, causing pollution in the process. Which makes the usefulness of such vehicles highly questionable...

Electric cars are NOT the answer to long term energy and/ or pollution problems, unless the world adopts sources such as nuclear power, as all they do currently is shift the problem elsewhere. When will the world leaders understand this? :bang:
 
herpsuk said:
4 bigger versions of above, one on each wheel :)

use electricity and produce electricity at the same time...........
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but they make a higher rolling resistance and need more power to drive them... hub dynamos are a lot better but still, theres no such thing as free energy as such its all gotta come from somewhere...
 
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