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Electric cars do not reduce emissions. They require electricity which is made by oil, coal and gas powerstations - and electricity is expencive and due to rise in cost!
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i was thinking that the elecy has to be generated somewhow
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i was thinking that the elecy has to be generated somewhow
i think il be borrowing the GF's hamster...........

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Re: 5000 to help you buy electric car

Buying an electric car now is a waste of money, wait for Hydrogen fuel cell cars, I think that's the future.
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Even hydrogen isn't GREEN. The hydrogen is produced by electrolysis which uses.... electricity!
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The batteries should need a one time charge. You then need a Dynamo that charges the battery back up as you drive, would make sense no?
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The batteries should need a one time charge. You then need a Dynamo that charges the battery back up as you drive, would make sense no?
The dynamo taking it's power from where?
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The dynamo taking it's power from where?


Did you not have one of those dynamo powered bicycle lights when you were a kid? Powered by your own legs!
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Most electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels. Once the inefficiency of transmission through the grid is taken into account, electric cars produce more CO2 per mile than an efficient diesel engine. Politicians just don't seem able to grasp the simple physics involved here but then, most of them have law degrees!
Hybrids are an irrelevance, expensive, heavy and all they do is use petrol/diesel to charge their batteries.
Even 5000 would not induce me to spend a fortune on a useless electric car.
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Electric cars do not reduce emissions. They require electricity which is made by oil, coal and gas powerstations - and electricity is expencive and due to rise in cost!
You can make more electricity though. Can you make more crude oil?
The Tesla Roadster can do about 200 miles on about 5 of electricity. My Panda can do 500 miles on about 35 of diesel. Electricity may go up in price, but do you think fuel will stay the same?

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Most electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels.
Most, but not all, and it doesn't have to be that way forever (if the government can sort out their policy ). All internal combustion engines burn fossil fuels (excluding biofuels, but we'll ignore them for now)
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Once the inefficiency of transmission through the grid is taken into account, electric cars produce more CO2 per mile than an efficient diesel engine.
Do you have a source for that?
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I think the goverment need to give up on trying to get us to buy an electric car. were not stupid. wht i think they should do is concentrate on housing electricity, alternative ways of producing that.

Did anyone see the shows Ian Wright did with the fat kids. One kid was the size he was because he eat rubbish and played xbox all day. so he wired the xbox and telly to a dynamo on a tread mill, he then had to run to make telly work, thus losing weight and watching telly. Good i think. this could be done with anything.. rowers, bikes, spinners. The only downfall is if you watch loads of telly or, go on computer a lot you might get tired and there could be no back up. Plus no furniture in house just a gym for a living room
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You can make more electricity though. Can you make more crude oil?
If we suddenly dig up loads of fossil fuel and burn it then it will run out, may last a bit longer, bit its still the same as oil really.

Oil ios still being produced somewhere underground.. so are fossil fuels. just turns out we use more oil than coal.
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Re: 5000 to help you buy electric car

lots more ways to create electricity than oil though...

nuclear power stations
wave generators
hydro power stations
ground heat sources
wind power
solar power

etc etc
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If we suddenly dig up loads of fossil fuel and burn it then it will run out, may last a bit longer, bit its still the same as oil really.
Oil is a fossil fuel.
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Oil is still being produced somewhere underground...
Really, really, really slowly.
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You can make more electricity though. Can you make more crude oil?
The Tesla Roadster can do about 200 miles on about 5 of electricity. My Panda can do 500 miles on about 35 of diesel. Electricity may go up in price, but do you think fuel will stay the same?
Can we make more electricity is the question. We're due to lose about 25% of our electricity over the next 5-10 years as the current nuclear power stations go off-line.
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