http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/225801/new-ka-revealed.html
Anyone know if the 500 was developed with Ford or if Fiat just sold it to them?
Anyone know if the 500 was developed with Ford or if Fiat just sold it to them?
New Ford Ka - 500 much?
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New Ford Ka - 500 much?
both are pandas with fancy frocks on, all are made on the same line in poland, economies of scale, parts transfer etc etc etc
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Another similar thread here:
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-new/156634-panda-dash-appears-another-car.html
Oh, and here:
https://www.fiatforum.com/non-fiat/156363-new-ford-ka.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-new/156634-panda-dash-appears-another-car.html
Oh, and here:
https://www.fiatforum.com/non-fiat/156363-new-ford-ka.html
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Holy Repost Batman!
yeah i know, but i'm hoping with the extra coverage in LL, some 500 jockey will see the "panda in a frock" line...bite and be reeled in like a goodun:devil:
keep it real, keep it pure, keep it panda......
keep it real, keep it pure, keep it panda......
SeicentoS
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it was a joint project from the very beginning. the ka has only been released later than the 500 to help fiat out, but development of both models started and ended at the same time with both fiat and ford involved equally.
I've told you before it's not a frock it's body armour, hence the NCAP scores. Besides Fiat would want 2 cars as ugly as the Panda in the showrooms would they? :devil:
Good enough bite?
pure pedigree fella, not some mongrel frankenstein.......
yeah they were both developed on the panda platform, but thats only half the job of making a car. i admit its the most expensive and time consuming part, but you can have very different cars all built on the same platform. for example the tipo platform gave us the bravo brava marea coupe 145 146 155 156 gtv (and more i've forgotten). you cant say a 156 is the same car as a coupe, or the gtv is the same car as the bravo.
pure pedigree fella, not some mongrel frankenstein.......
Pedigree doesn't always mean much.
Thats very true. but the 500/Ka/Panda are way more closely related than the GTV and Bravo.
I know you haven't spent any time near a 500 or you would be able to tell how similar they are to the Panda. Basicly the same engines, same seating postition, same driving experience and where Fiat felt they could get away with it he same fixtures and fittings. The only real difference between the 500 and Panda is that the Panda was designed to be functional and reliable. The 500 was designed to look good aswell, the Ka has been designed to look like a Pug.
Kieran83
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Can we add the corsa to this please. Seems like they have all been born using the same cousin screwing genetics they develop at car designing school....
Is it me or are 500's as common as muck now?
Is it me or are 500's as common as muck now?
Yes.
Theyre also far too much like the Micra IMO.
Not proper '500'. Same way that BMW excuse for a small car slightly resembled the Mini.
The more I see 500s the less I like the rear 3/4 view nose is good if as camp as the accomodation at glastonbury the back on the other hand reminds me not a single bit of a 500 but then again maybe thats cos theres not an engine hanging out of it.
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....and VW with the Beetle, I mean what a rip off! Then Citroen say they are bringing back the 2CV. I wouldn't mind but all these cars were designed as cheap cars for all but the Mini and the Beetle are really expensive.
If you want an old car buy an old car, if you want a new car buy a decent one
