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Did you use these just after you passed your test? And do you think they're a good idea and should be made mandatory? I was going to buy some in order to point out to other drivers to be gentle with me, but couldn't find any, then later realised I would just be easy prey to bullying drivers who wanted someone to pick on. If I see a driver with P plates I'm always more careful with them and tolerant of mistakes - after all it's true that you don't learn to DRIVE until after you drive alone for the first time.

Just wondring what people's opinions on them are.

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think they should be compulsery.great idea for new drivers.is it ireland where there mandatory?

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I spoke to your before about them Helz and my outcome was the same; scared bullying drivers would take advantage. I don't think the attitude will ever change, some of us are nice towards learners/P-plate drivers and give them plenty of room, allow for many more mistakes etc. etc. but I am sure you can remember being in that learner car when there were absolute idiots trying to intimidate you...

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I always more careful with them and tolerant of mistakes as well, think its a good idea:)

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i agree with paul, i didnt want P plates becasue i didn't want to be an easy target, i passed my test, so i thought,i idint want people thinking i'd only bin driving a short time, i think in general people are quite impaitient behind the wheel anyway, regardless of whether you have been driving for ten days or ten years - its just my opinion:)

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Nine times out of ten the P plates are stuck on and forgot about and sometimes the driver might not have just passed i.e. family car with Dad, Mum, Son and Daughter all driving at some point.

If your holding someone up then why did you get your licence? Time for a re-test!

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I have to agree... P plates scream 'i cant drive properly yet' at you

And i'm still a learner! :D

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i might get myself some now and see if i get any hasle;)

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just for the fun of it, aint that right Dave :p

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The main reasons I intended to have them at first were:

To explain why I keep to speed limits (it seems you need an explanation to do 30mph in a 30mph zone)
To explain why I may be a little more hesitant compared with other drivers
To maybe ask for a little bit more time/space, for instance getting through a tight spot

Fortunately they flew off at first 60mph trip so the idea was lost - better like that anyway IMO. They would be a fantastic idea if people took them as they should be taken.


Liam; you remember passing, you weren't the world's best driver straight away, you need experience to get to be a decent driver, 10-30 hours with a driving instructor won't mean you're perfect!

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Refer to my post and gasp when you find the word Perfect not appearing in it at all!

Yip but your right I wasn't perfect and neither is anyone else, it's all a confidence thing and my best advice is to head to the city and get some heavy traffic experience and cram in many miles into your first year and you will soon become competent in most drivers eyes.

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I agree Paul with your last point there: this was why I mentioned that when you start out you aren't the worlds most confident and fantastic driver and it takes time and practice to become accustomed to other road users doing silly things for example. I still remember my first journey out - only drove a mile or so to the supermarket and I was shaking like a leaf (and no doubt holding up a lot of traffic).

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i learnt a lot more about driving in the first couple of months after passing my driving test. this was mainly due to the fact i didn't have someone telling me what to do and i could actually think of my own free will, i learnt how to control the car better for my own style of driving and i also pracised stuff more that i wasn't brilliant at, like reversing into a carpark space. i mastered it without a problem in my first week of passing my test, my instructer always made me feel nervous and i made more mistakes with him[V]

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If your holding someone up then why did you get your licence? Time for a re-test!
You said this, I am refering to this, i.e. this is a non-perfect driver in your eyes. You simply can't expect somebody just to have passed to not hold up other drivers at some points; it doesn't mean they need to retake, they need more practise to get more confident, that's all.

I learnt to drive off-road so knew how to drive when I went to my driving instructor, just need a few hours of road experience and fine tuning to pass, hence I consider I was a good first time passer after nominal lessons, yet I still remember holding up traffic, do i honestly not deserve a licence??


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I think I deserve my licence after going through all four bits of it (theory, hazard perception, practical and car maintenance) to pass, which is more than most here have :D.

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