I'm not sure of the exact point you making here Trans.

Are you saying that after a **** up.

You immune to the effects of the drink or that your such an awesome driver that even when pissed your better than the average driver?

The Beast said:

I'm not sure of the exact point you making here Trans.

Are you saying that after a **** up.

You immune to the effects of the drink or that your such an awesome driver that even when pissed your better than the average driver?

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I'm not saying I'm immune, I'd hate to be immune to the effects of alcohol, that would be a nightmare.

Maybe "after a **** up" was the wrong terminology to use. Its like I said in my first post. If you do something responsibly you don't have to worry about being a danger to anyone, you just have to worry about getting caught.

A Machine has a tollerance zone. All humans do not have the same tollerance. Therfore, if a machine says one is "drunk" they are only drunk by law when infact they could probably be no where near drunk and have to drink enough so that the machine exploded before that individual, who is different like everybody is different, became incapable of doing simple tasks.

it has been proven that regular drinkers are affected far less than occasional drinkers. if you drink 5 pints every night you will get to a point where you are safer on the roads after 5 pints than a non-drinker would be after half a pint.

but the law is there for everybody, one law for everybody because that way its fair, and theres no way that you could differentiate between those who have a good tolerance to alchohol, and those who get drunk very easily.


aside from that, you say that you think that you are fine when you drink and drive. yeah, sure, thats your story when you have a little too much to drink one night and you run someone over.

No offence, but that is possibly one of the stupidest things i have ever heard.
especially since you think you shouldnt have to be "subjected" to the same law as others. :tosser:

why am i even trying to argue, im sure that you will come back with some devastating retort.

Get one of these

http://www.ukbreathalysers.com/products/leisure/aml201.htm

I have it in the glove box, its saved me a few times when i have been further over the limit than i thought i was.

But saying that i can go out and have a 3 course meal with 2 large glasses of white wine, which technically should put me over the limit and when i get in the car and test myself I am just on the limit or under. I'm 6'1 and wiegh about 93Kg.

It varies for everyone, some people have lower tolerances than others, my girlfriend has 2 large glasses of white passes out mid sex, but she can down 6 pints without batting an eyelid, go figure.

Anyway the punishment is not worth it, see below. I like driving my car around to much to risk it, and my job requires mod clearence which would be alomost impossible to get with a conviction.



Failing to provide a roadside breath test (Code DR70)Penalty - Fine - up to Level 3 (£1,000)4 penalty points on your licence
Disqualification is at the discretion of the Court
Driving/Attempting to Drive with excess alcohol (DR10)Penalty - Fine - up to Level 5 (£5,000) and/or up to 6 months imprisonment
Mandatory disqualification for at least 12 months for first offence
Mandatory disqualification for at least 3 years for second offence within 10 years.
Being in charge of a motor vehicle with excess alcohol (DR40)Penalty - Fine - up to Level 4 (£2,500) and/or up to 3 months imprisonment
10 penalty points on your licence
Disqualification is at the discretion of the Court
After Driving/Attempting to drive refusing to provide samples for analysis (DR30)Penalty - Fine - up to Level 5 (£5,000) and/or 6 months imprisonment
Mandatory disqualification for at least 12 months for first offence (18 months tends to be the norm as you are considered to have been trying to avoid being found guilty)
Mandatory disqualification for at least 3 years for second offence within 10 years
After being in charge refusing to provide samples for analysis (DR60)Penalty - Fine - Level 4 (£2,500) and/or 3 months imprisonment
10 penalty points on your licence
Disqualification is at the discretion of the Court

Munkul said:

you say that you think that you are fine when you drink and drive. yeah, sure, thats your story when you have a little too much to drink one night and you run someone over.

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I am more likely to kill a child leaving my Driveway. It is quite blind and it is inbetween two private nurseries. The kind of ones where the parents just let there kids run up and down the street unacompanied. Death is a way of life and sometimes its easier to just point the finger and blame blame blame.

Munkul said:

No offence, but that is possibly one of the stupidest things i have ever heard.
especially since you think you shouldnt have to be "subjected" to the same law as others. :tosser:

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No offence taken but I think you, personally, are just ignorant. I never once said that "I" should be given special treatment. Call me a Tosser or use a :tosser: smiley online. I'd punch you in the face in real life obviously not meaning to cause any physical harm.

EDIT: The first question was not "What is the law on Drink Driving?" but rather "Should I report someone I know who is Drink Driving? It is a question which asks an opinion.

People have said what their feelings are on the matter. I said what my feelings are on the matter. It goes deeper then just what the law states. It would probably be something you would decide upon at the time. If someone has had a couple and seems fine and coherant then leave them to it. If someone has fallen into their car face first with there head in the footwell then rights themselves and attempts to drive home. I would consider reporting them.

I have reported a drink driver in my life time but he was all over the place. I was at work and saw him on CCTV. The police still took forever to arrive.

I would not report a friend. I would take their keys and if need be, risk driving them home in their car without insurance. They are a friend after all and they would do the same for me.

I answered all or most of my posts on this thread with a reasonable argument. All I can remember you doing so far is being abusive.

Tbh, in my opinion.... anybody who drink drives is a :tosser:

grandeJ said:

Tbh, in my opinion.... anybody who drink drives is a :tosser:

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So if the said :tosser: has one WKD and drives, is that wrong? If the said :tosser: has a chocolate with alcohol in it, is that wrong?

You have not defined what your opinion of a "drink" is.

Trancendental said:

So if the said :tosser: has one WKD and drives, is that wrong? If the said :tosser: has a chocolate with alcohol in it, is that wrong?

You have not defined what your opinion of a "drink" is.

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Right.... i'd quite happily drive after a pint. obviously one pint is under the legal limit.

but... anybody who goes out "on the ****" and drinks more than the legal limit and then decides to drive home/drop off mates is obviously an idiot.. and imo deserves to get caught AND face the consequences.

but arent you at an illegal age to drink

i would never drink if i knew i were driving.

Joshua Frost-Lunn said:

but arent you at an illegal age to drink

i would never drink if i knew i were driving.

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and? so what if i fancy a beer at home and then decide to go to the shop... im still under the legal limit to drive. if i get stopped and breathalised.... "im sorry sir, you have alcohol in your system but your under the legal age to drink. gonna have to arrest you im afraid!" i doubt it.

grandeJ said:

and? so what if i fancy a beer at home and then decide to go to the shop?

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lol im only kidding.

i used to drink more before i was 18 then i do after lol

grandeJ said:

Right.... i'd quite happily drive after a pint. obviously one pint is under the legal limit.

but... anybody who goes out "on the ****" and drinks more than the legal limit and then decides to drive home/drop off mates is obviously an idiot.. and imo deserves to get caught AND face the consequences.

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How would you feel if you had that one pint and your test blew positive?

You know you are not incapable, but the machine says you are drunk and more "importantly" over the legal limit. Can't argue with the machine. How would you feel?

Trancendental said:

How would you feel if you had that one pint and your test blew positive?

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then obviously id ask to be taken to the police station for a blood test.

Thats why i dont drink if i know im driving , as i dont drink much and only weigh very little and so the slightest percentage in my system can affect me