What a load of ****!. Another nanny state recommendation.....

How about educating people look both ways before walking out into the road that would work better!.

i think its a good idea.................if they allow us to have 24 points to play with instead of 12 at the mo.

Dunc

Why not ban cars altogether? Better still ban ALL things that move - that way there won't be any casualties

the govt road safety advisors come up with some daft ideas, thankfully they rarely go any further than recommendations.

some idiot said:

He said a survey by the Transport Research Laboratory of 20mph zones across the UK and in other European countries found child road accidents fell by 67%, cyclist accidents by 29% and traffic flow by 27%

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so it's mostly to do with the reduced traffic flow than the speed then.

I think 20 is fast enough in a residential road, like through a housing estate, but main town roads should be kept at 30...like they've done in Portsmouth.

The highways departments need to keep themselves busy, job justification. Probably dreamt up by a 50 something woman do gooder, with short hair, tweed skirt and a white nissan micra.

Dont know why cars get the blame, i mean cars dont drive on pavements and knock people down. Instead of the goverment locking down on speeding why not educate people more.

Hows about speed limiting? I suggest those genuinely caught and done for speeding by 10mph above the speed limits of 30, 40, 50, 60 or 70 should have speed limiting imposed, and let us more sensible drivers keep our liberty as a reward. Spam Time!

Shaunyboyuk said:

Dont know why cars get the blame, i mean cars dont drive on pavements and knock people down. Instead of the goverment locking down on speeding why not educate people more.

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Why not just trust people to be sensible? In the main most people drive sensibly based on the prevailing road conditions. Obviously the likes of new drivers, e.g. Beau are a bit of an exception as a general lack of experience and over enthusiasm is more of a problem If someone really cared they'd scrap speed cameras and reintroduce a meaningful transport police presence on the road.

A lot of the roads suggested you can't do more than 20 anyway - like the road my parents live on, which is in a 20mph zone. As long as the main routes into/ out of town aren't 20mph, I don't see a problem (though a lot of those you end up driving slower anyway).

30 past my house is pretty daft as there is a blind junction.. but a blanket ban would be bad. Plenty of roads are safe at 30.

For built-up and residential areas then yes, 20 is indeed plenty. Fully agree with the education argument, but whilst it will help - it won't be completely successful. Kids and animals do unexpected things. Is it really any consolation for you to say 'well they shouldn't have ran out' if you have a dead kid shaped dent in your grill? Plus, you'll probably need to pay the first 50 or 60 quid for your new windscreen.

Would be nice if they countered it with 80 or 90 on motorways...

rpaterson said:

Kids and animals do unexpected things. Is it really any consolation for you to say 'well they shouldn't have ran out' if you have a dead kid shaped dent in your grill?

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Yes! a dead shaped kid in the shape on my grill is getting hung on the rear view mirror for ornimental purposes.

You can usually tell what speed you should be driving depending on how far you can see ahead and how much you can see to the left and right.

Good drivers don't need a 20 sign to know they should be doing less then 20.

There are some 30 roads round here I won't do 30 on even in the middle of the night because there are too much concealed driveways and too many parked vehicles to be able to see anything early enough to react safely at 30.

WTF does FTW mean?

ftw = for the win.

20mph for **** sake. why not spend money on educating people how to cross teh damn road. oh and if we all slow down and there fore more cyclists feel it safe to use road, there bound to be more incidents with bikes then just by there more amount of em.

Whatever happened to the public information films and teching kids the green cross code though? You never see anything like that any more, most parents just drag their kids across the road, if they even have hold of them in the first place - many run free.

That's a good point, anyone remember doing cycling proficiency at school?

At 33, I may be showing my age...

Any road or non-adopted highway (including car parks) which isn't a thoroughfare should be made an enforceable 20mph limit. I've seen the t*ts who drive down my cul-de-sac like it's f**king Monaco in May, or around Sainsbury's car park like it's Silverstone or the church car park next to my work where mums park for the nursery...

our high street is a 20 limit, it just makes more people wander across the road thinking they have the right of way over cars, even though there is about 20 crossings where they can wait their turn and cross safely