To be fair they sound amazing and have enough power to turn the world backwards but cornering ability is not their strong point.
A friend of mine had a 6.3litre version circa 2014
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To be fair they sound amazing and have enough power to turn the world backwards but cornering ability is not their strong point.
A friend of mine had a 6.3litre version circa 2014
Sounds like fun. Does it contravene Farcebook regs though?
Cornering ability is not a strong point of a 169 Panda on 155 tyres either.
You'd hope that all that extra money for the Merc would gain something over the Panda.
I guess I might have used less fuel for the whoe 80 mile return trip, than he did trying to keep up for about 7 miles.
Very likely I remember my friend telling me he took it for a trip to the coast when he first got it and that one day out was about £80 in fuel
don't know dont care, people offering less than half the asking price should be against the rules. they are not even polite put some thing up for £800 and get a message saying £300? and thats it just a number and question mark, some times not even the questing mark.
That’s pretty bad for such a young car, you do expect with these diamond cut wheels to easily pick up kerb marks and then it bubble up round the edges but there shouldn’t really be anything to damage the centre. The only thing you can do to protect them is get a few more layers of lacquer applied when they are new to stop stones or other things damaging the surface and then the water getting in.
I have a couple of marks on the back wheels of the golf one is quite large from I’m assuming a kerb but the water has not gotten in yet, I used to use alloy wheel seal from autoglym to that may have helped
Why? Because with today's younger people it's all about the "look". In my youth the "thing" was to have something which looked either like a shed (if you were strapped for cash) or fairly standard but went like the proverbial slippy stuff off a shovel!
Sorry, didn't tick the Quote box! This was in reply to his post about the Merc.
Sorry, didn't tick the Quote box! This was in reply to his post about the Merc.
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Yeah it's the way they are made pretty much, we had one of the 1st cars fitted with them (there was a period pre-DS rebrand where you got the facelift rear end with 3d lights, the DS style wheels with Citroen centre caps and interior bits off the facelift car but it was still a Citroen DS3 and had the older gen engines).
1st set lasted 6 months...quality items unfortunately good to see they've not improved in the interim.
If anything it's a nice example of how variable Citroen build is, the C3 is also a 2017, also has Diamond cut wheels and there's not a mark anywhere on them.
But when it showed up without more rattles than 200k taxi on day one and came with panels that both fitted and were all the same colour it was fairly clear the production and QA processes had moved on since the DS3 was designed in 2009.
Is this something I can do myself if/when I get a new set or should I find a professional workshop somewhere to get it done?
I've been using that Wonderwheels cleaner stuff (purple bottle from halfords) I'm wonderng if that too sore on the alloys in the long run? I usually use it every other wash since it's a bit over priced to make it last. The results are great though from it!
I noticed most DS3's with these alloys I saw had this issue so it didn't put me off buying the car. I'm in two minds whether to just sell the brand new set as soon as they come and buy smaller alloys of a suitable design, only that I can't distinguish what aftermarket alloy brands are pure trash or quality
I don’t know about the person in the story but my friend was 50 when he got his so not really a young person looking just for something that looked good. He had previously had a sports car and was not adverse to speed and power but even he found the merc was just too powerful it really wasn’t a drivers car more for bragging rights with 500 something horse power and lots of torque all in an otherwise fairly boring looking family saloon.
Back on the 90s I had a boss who owned a 190 cosworth and that was a nice car for the time but was getting old even then, not hugely fast by today’s standards but could go round a corner, it had a high mileage and as he was a poser he got rid of it for a nearly new BMW 3 series with the badges taken off, look it up and it was just a 1.8 petrol but he thought it was much more special, ironically I’d not be surprised if the cosworth is still on the road while his expensive bmw is almost certainly scrap now.
Not to try and argue with the point of generally older people buying the high end Mercs / BMWs, the local guy I know (younger than me) who had the BMW 420 coupe now has a 2018 Mercedes E-Class AMG coupe. I often do think though that these cars (given the cost to buy new) seemed more like 50s / executive cars and not so much a 'young person's car. Most people my age around here drive 10+ year old, beat up Mercs / Lexus's / etc. A lot of them do seem to be turning up with not-that-old-looking A6's now though so I'm not sure what the story is there!
Meanwhile, in my world, I'm sitting in what is a reshaped C3 thinking it's a luxury car
(don't worry, I know it's NOT really) lol
All this talk of larger cars reminded me that a couple of days ago I had to go to our bank - I'm too scared and suspicious of modern tech to do online banking. That sounds like a simple task but for us it's absolutely chaotic as all the streets around the bank are either double yellows or dug up and closed off by the chaps who are rerouting the service pipes in preparation for the trams being extended to Newhaven. - Wont get started on what a waste of money that is! They've even blocked access to the bank's own car park.
Anyway I was scooting round the back streets on The Shore looking for somewhere to park without much success when I spotted what looked like a good prospect about half way down the street. I was almost there when a large Merc came hurrying up and stuck his nose in it rather rudely denying me access. He too'd and fro'd a few times blocking the road so I couldn't continue, before finally squaring himself up in the space. It was then that I thought to myself "That space is so tight he won't be able to open his door" and indeed that's exactly what happened! After a few more back and forward manoeuvers without any more success he finally gave up and went away leaving the space vacant for me to easily park Becky and make my visit to the bank! Yeah, Pandas rule!
Anyway I was scooting round the back streets on The Shore looking for somewhere to park without much success when I spotted what looked like a good prospect about half way down the street. I was almost there when a large Merc came hurrying up and stuck his nose in it rather rudely denying me access. He too'd and fro'd a few times blocking the road so I couldn't continue, before finally squaring himself up in the space. It was then that I thought to myself "That space is so tight he won't be able to open his door" and indeed that's exactly what happened! After a few more back and forward manoeuvers without any more success he finally gave up and went away leaving the space vacant for me to easily park Becky and make my visit to the bank! Yeah, Pandas rule!
It’s called PCP if you can afford the monthly repayments then you can pretty much buy anything you want. Some people value having a fancy car over a lot of other things that the rest of us might consider important.
For me what's important is moving out and saving for a rainy day. This past year I've been shoving away a four-hundred a month for mostly a house deposit. Felt a bit guilty going from 120 a month (Panda) to £190 a month (DS3) but then when I look at some of the cars, holidays, designer clothes etc that some of my friends have I didn't feel so bad about the extra bit of commitment.
Made £6 something on my stock investments this week (not bad for the first few days since the money settled) and about 40p on an ISA. So trying to do worthwhile things with said savings too.
To me, the Mercedes (or should I say, Maserati - or perhaps DS by that time) can come when I'm getting grey hairs which I hope is a long way off yet!
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Those people are called morons, lol!
Got to say don't think there's anything wrong with PCP as such. The issue comes when people are absolutely financially illiterate and start diving into "cheap" deals unaware or uncaring that one day a reckoning will come where damage will need to be paid, excess miles tallied, balloon payments etc.
I don't like them personally because I think it's the dealerships way of ensuring a supply of good condition, full history, low miles used cars that they will then PCP again taking another chunk of interest out of the same car while the "owner" is just financing the depreciation. Or just making a wedge out of penalties when people don't comply.
If you keep to the rules agreed at the start of the deal there's no issue. If we'd decided to roll it into another deal we'd have been in positive equity, we're just getting out because paying 9 grand over 3 years or there abouts for a car that does 4k a year is nonsense. Depreciation is the biggest cost so starting that cycle again would be silly even if the monthlies would be looow.
If we weren't looking to tidy the finances up to buy a bigger house I'd have had no issue as such with getting another.
All cars lose money one way or another if you can afford to lose it and want the car how you pay for it doesn't actually make a massive difference to the cost. It's buying a new car itself that's expensive not how you pay for it.
Speaking of the financially illiterate..
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mum-claims-newports-wessex-garages-4448421
If you can't afford the Balloon at the end...hand it back and get a car loan for 198 quid a month on something else job done or start another deal.
I don't like them personally because I think it's the dealerships way of ensuring a supply of good condition, full history, low miles used cars that they will then PCP again taking another chunk of interest out of the same car while the "owner" is just financing the depreciation. Or just making a wedge out of penalties when people don't comply.
If you keep to the rules agreed at the start of the deal there's no issue. If we'd decided to roll it into another deal we'd have been in positive equity, we're just getting out because paying 9 grand over 3 years or there abouts for a car that does 4k a year is nonsense. Depreciation is the biggest cost so starting that cycle again would be silly even if the monthlies would be looow.
If we weren't looking to tidy the finances up to buy a bigger house I'd have had no issue as such with getting another.
All cars lose money one way or another if you can afford to lose it and want the car how you pay for it doesn't actually make a massive difference to the cost. It's buying a new car itself that's expensive not how you pay for it.
Speaking of the financially illiterate..
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mum-claims-newports-wessex-garages-4448421
If you can't afford the Balloon at the end...hand it back and get a car loan for 198 quid a month on something else job done or start another deal.
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I bought my golf on a PCP, put down a huge deposit (sometimes you don’t even need a deposit) then paid the monthly payments then paid it off at the end of the deal, the interest rate was very low because of the deal at the time maybe 1-2% I forget exactly now but it worked out much cheaper than buying the car on a repayment loan, 100% mine with in 4 years and was a £32k car book price (I haggled a discount)
It was done this way because the PCP plan was the best deal at the time.
My wife also has her mini on a PCP and pays considerably less than what she’d pay if she just took out a loan, and it’s again a £30k car which she didn’t have in her back pocket.
She tends to get a new car every few years because she does huge mileage and she’s a doctor so it’s not like she can’t afford it, it’s also a sensible car choice.
The problem with PCP deals is where someone goes out and buys the most expensive thing their earnings allow, as an example when I bought my golf I could have bought a BMW i8 for £1000+ a month.
I know people who have bought very expensive cars on PCP deals then panicked when circumstances change and they can’t afford it, like having a baby, buying a house or moving or losing a job.
There is nothing wrong with any finance deal if you use them properly.
It was done this way because the PCP plan was the best deal at the time.
My wife also has her mini on a PCP and pays considerably less than what she’d pay if she just took out a loan, and it’s again a £30k car which she didn’t have in her back pocket.
She tends to get a new car every few years because she does huge mileage and she’s a doctor so it’s not like she can’t afford it, it’s also a sensible car choice.
The problem with PCP deals is where someone goes out and buys the most expensive thing their earnings allow, as an example when I bought my golf I could have bought a BMW i8 for £1000+ a month.
I know people who have bought very expensive cars on PCP deals then panicked when circumstances change and they can’t afford it, like having a baby, buying a house or moving or losing a job.
There is nothing wrong with any finance deal if you use them properly.
You get another 12" of bonnet per £10k
Did you see the one 'parallel parking' at the BP pumps in a rainy Kent the other day..
Scary stuff.. so much for driver aids.
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The main trouble with PCP purchase is that you are effectively driving, and very carefully looking after someone else's car, and that someone else wrote the rules, but you are paying for it.
It's not a lease...make all the payments It's yours.
Even if we sold ours to we buy any car tomorrow who give crap values we'd have enough cash in it to pay off the finance and about a grand for our trouble on top.
Not the case in all deals obviously a combination of us doing lower miles and the market being kinder to this generation of C3 depreciation wise mean the guaranteed future value agreed 3 years ago is 20-25% less or so than the car is worth currently.
That is the reason for the rules, to protect that GFV otherwise you end up in negative equity with battered car that you owe money on at far end. At which point it's your own fault for committing to it, if you can't be trusted to do basic things like service your car and not mistreat it, then a new car probably isn't the best idea as you're going to lose loads money regardless.
