Forum Rules Updated

In an effort to make them easier to find, the forum rules now have their own page: https://www.fiatforum.com/rules.html

We're also now rolling out the infraction system (details can also be seen on the rules page). Hopefully this will kerb the accusations of moderator power tripping as we now have a nice list of what scores what.

Also let it be noted that a warning can be issued without points given (the prefered method) so you're not going to get points if you accidentally break one ... however keep doing it .... :dead:

It's all up for dicussion if you have any ideas or comments about the rules/points issued - so please feel free to comment below

 

[sammiboo]

I must admit that the Mods do a very good job!!!

The only critisism i ever have is the intolerance that is sometimes shown to newbies because of basic questions that regular forum users already have knowledge off

I feel that deleting a post and appling a correctly worded direct contact (even a bogo letter) would have more effect and ensure continuing subscription rather than the far too frequent public humiliation

Martin

Its not really newbies the mods have a go at, we appreicate that they dont know their way around the forum. Its more of the regular users that know the rules but try and push them. Like "how much is my car worth" then they turn it into a selling thread. Or they blantantly post a thread to sell.

Or post in the wrong section. Pet Peeve atm is people who asked for a computing section post computer problems in the lesuire lounge - not the computing section. They asked for it, they got it and still post in the wrong place. Surely you can see why this gets a tad annoying....

 

[Chas Uno]

Its more of the regular users that know the rules but try and push them. Like "how much is my car worth" then they turn it into a selling thread. Or they blantantly post a thread to sell.

Is it not possible for the forum to have some kind of 'valuation thread' instead then? I got a FF Asbo cry for trying to find out what an engine part was worth. I was NOT selling it (I'm sure I didn't even mention that I had it, I just asked what a specific part was worth), but was trying to find out the market value so I could decide what to do with a complete Punto I have.

If the part alone was worth the price of the complete Punto then it would make sense for me to keep it for a future project and break the rest of the car, at which point the car minus the part would go into the classifieds. But I wouldn't be able to decide what to do until I knew the value of the specific engine part, which being Fiat specific means that only other Fiat owners would know the going rate. Surely that's one of the good things about a Fiat specific forum is that we can share useful information like this?

I have no criticism of the mod who gave me the infraction as they were simply adhering to the rules and doing their job. However, the suggestion that I put the part in question in the classifieds and ask for 'best offer' to get a valuation I think is unfair on the people who might well be interested in buying one. Before we know it the classifieds could be full of 'best offer' adverts from people trying to work out what something is worth rather than actually selling it.

The only other thing I could suggest is to allow people to ask the going rate for a part/ vehicle but WITHOUT mentioning that they have it. We have threads like this already that are acceptable, such as 'Recommend me a car for £1.5K' where people discuss what car to get for that money. Someone will mention 'Punto Sporting' and then 'you can pick them up for £xxx' etc. It's just a way of accessing knowledge of the going rate for something, which a lot of owners might not have a clue what it is.

That knowledge could make the difference between someone underselling something they are selling, or being ripped off for something they are buying.

Just a thought! :idea:

 

[custard]

the problem is that loads of people were using 'how much is it worth' as a way of creating an ad on the forum.
you list a specific case for you but in the end you have the part/car which will be for sale at some point.
thats why there is an open to offers or auction style in the classifieds

 

[philthedrill]

Hi all Fiat fans, I'm new hear and wondered if someone could help me out
Firstly I can't seem to find where or how I start a post
Secondly :
I have just bought a Doblo Cargo jtd sx 'O4 (in dirty white ) . It's done some work in it's short life, lugging kitchin fitters and their tools around the country, and has clocked up 96k. This wouldn't be a problem if it still went like a 20k'er but it acts more like a 200k'er. The pull away power for a 1.9 Turbo Diesel is poor at best and attrocious at worst and I have absolutely no idea where to start looking for the solution ?. I've seen a magic box of tricks on ebay for £120 that will boost the power by <25% but not sure if they're any good anybody know if it's likely to be a scam or do these chips actualy do what they say on the tin ?
Cheers for now

 

[T14086]

Infraction for philthedrill

Phil...introduce yourself here...

https://www.fiatforum.com/newbie-central/


Then post your concern here...

https://www.fiatforum.com/doblo/


finally........welcome to the FF :wave:

 

[Chas Uno]

the problem is that loads of people were using 'how much is it worth' as a way of creating an ad on the forum.
you list a specific case for you but in the end you have the part/car which will be for sale at some point.
thats why there is an open to offers or auction style in the classifieds

I get what you're saying Custard, but the part in question is NOT for sale on its own. Until I find out how much it goes for on the second hand market I won't know what to do with the rest of the car. Basically I will want this part in the future, but if it is going to cost me as much to buy again on its own as I will get to sell the whole car then I'll remove the part and sell the car without it.

However, if I'd worded it differently would this be acceptable? For instance, if I said "Can anyone tell me what Fiat charge for an XYZ part new, and how much do XYZ parts normally go for second hand." Would that be acceptable?

Or "I'm looking at an XYZ part that costs £XX. Is that a good price?"

I've looked on Ebay and found nothing to help me, and knowing other FF users buy these parts I'll get a better idea of the going rate if that information could be shared.

Hang on, here's another idea! :idea:

How about having a price guide sticky with recommended second hand parts prices in each model section? Someone could simply post up a part, then other members could add what they paid for one either new or second hand. That would also give a guide to other members looking for such a part.

A good idea maybe, and with a fairly definitive list it would stop others (like me!) from having to ask in a new thread!

 

[custard]

problem is its varies so much in prices plus people tend not to read/update the stickies.
for proof see the 2 stickies i keep bumping up for tools required and guides in cento land.
considering how much cento work is going on there is little input.
as said wording can be key but if your allowed to post a how much is it worth and 2 days before someone has been hit for 2 points thewn you can see what the result of that would be