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My grand Panda Project is finally taking off.

I'll be using an Alpine 7944 headunit, Hert Mille MLK2 components and eventually Mille sub and Hertz amp. For now, just the headunit and components have gone, powered by a Phoenix Gold M100.

So here's some pictures of what's been going on....

First off, soundproofing doors:









Fit power cable:





Soundproof floor:





Boot lid:



Amp and crossovers on temporary false floor:





Tweeter mounted:



Headunit in situ:

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looking good paul

reminds me that i need to start soundproofing to stick my system in. had the comps and amp sitting in my room for nealy a year now.

are you not using any foam at all? i thought that would be more suitable for the floor as it will absorb road noise
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TBH, road noise isn't really much of an issue in the Panda, I might stick some Dynaliner on there though, depends on funds.

Also, with well over 100wrms going into the comps, you can't hear much else!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by paulbfd View Post
My grand Panda Project is finally taking off.

I'll be using an Alpine 7944 headunit, Hert Mille MLK2 components and eventually Mille sub and Hertz amp. For now, just the headunit and components have gone, powered by a Phoenix Gold M100.

So here's some pictures of what's been going on....

First off, soundproofing doors:









Fit power cable:





Soundproof floor:





Boot lid:



Amp and crossovers on temporary false floor:





Tweeter mounted:



Headunit in situ:

How many packets of the Extreme Dynamat have you used? Also what make are the 2 x crossovers you are using? and thirdly, do your steering wheel controls still work with that headunit and is it ipod and bluetooth compatible?
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All i can say is....you must have spent so much on sound deadening
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How many packets of the Extreme Dynamat have you used? Also what make are the 2 x crossovers you are using? and thirdly, do your steering wheel controls still work with that headunit and is it ipod and bluetooth compatible?
I used a Door Kit in each door (normally one kit does two) and then another kit for the floor and boot lid. The boot itself is yet to be done, the roof might be getting some too.

The crossovers are the ones that comes with the Hertz Mille MLK2 components, have a look here:

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/6654.html

The headunit I'm using won't even play CDRs! It's the last of the great (non F#1) Alpine headunits from around 1998 so there's none of the factory options like before.


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All i can say is....you must have spent so much on sound deadening
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Looking Good Paul. So what do you think Of the Herz stuff i have heard good things but not known anybody that actually has it. What amp do you want to get i cant remember the name of the ones that i have seen but they are all supposed to be top notch. Are you putting you sub box over the amps or are they just there as a temporary fix. Will you be laying the subs horizontally where the parcel shelf would be American Style.
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The comps are still running in, but so far they sound pretty good. I'll be moving the tweeter into the A-pillar and doing a build for the mid so I can angle suitably for better imaging, stage is a bit low at the moment.

I was going to use the Hertz HP4 for the amp, but funds aren't going to allow that if I want to compete this year, so I'll be sticking with the M100 (pictured) and the M44 I had in the Seicento last year. The boot is just a temporary setup, I think the sub will go in the wheel well (loosing the spare) with an amp at each side, the passives in the middle. Have to see how much room there will be.
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The comps are still running in, but so far they sound pretty good. I'll be moving the tweeter into the A-pillar and doing a build for the mid so I can angle suitably for better imaging, stage is a bit low at the moment.

I was going to use the Hertz HP4 for the amp, but funds aren't going to allow that if I want to compete this year, so I'll be sticking with the M100 (pictured) and the M44 I had in the Seicento last year. The boot is just a temporary setup, I think the sub will go in the wheel well (loosing the spare) with an amp at each side, the passives in the middle. Have to see how much room there will be.
There enough room in the wheel bay or are you not going to build it flush to the floor or are you building the floor flush to the sub. I take it you are going for complete SQ so you wont be porting it as that could be a problem. Sorry bout all the questions i always interested in learning how other people do things add it to the pot of knowledge.
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They're should be enough room, the only issue might be with depth, but my false floor gives me a few inches more anyway. It could be mounted with the magnet showing, but that could effect the SQ, so would be a last option. I'll be running it sealed too, not a fan of the ported sound and it's generally considered an SQ no-no.
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They're should be enough room, the only issue might be with depth, but my false floor gives me a few inches more anyway. It could be mounted with the magnet showing, but that could effect the SQ, so would be a last option. I'll be running it sealed too, not a fan of the ported sound and it's generally considered an SQ no-no.
So you are competing sq then i dont understand these competitions. I was thinking if i put in the time and effort with my system is there any chance that i could beat you i will be using your amp with the channels bridged plus a third to run some more components and my 1000w RMS to power the L7 plus my 8" inch idea which i dont know weather it will improve SQ. Sorry if i am way of the mark but i reackon that it is time to notch up a stage.
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Yep, I'll be competing in SQ Rookie this year (fingers crossed). You'd beat me on SPL (I'm only using about 5-600wrms), but I'd hopefully have you in every other area, LOL!
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Yep, I'll be competing in SQ Rookie this year (fingers crossed). You'd beat me on SPL (I'm only using about 5-600wrms), but I'd hopefully have you in every other area, LOL!
How is SQ measured then im really interested now is it thrue distortion cos ill win i just wont turn the volume up, but in all seriousness i used to pipe dream about DB Dragracing, do they have different classes for SPL or is it literally any old person can turn up with a Transit van full of subs.
Would sound proofing to the extent that you have really help me for SPL or is that just so that there is no escape or room for distortion, i may just be confusing myself now sorry.
Have you ever thought of building the box way bigger than you need it and line it with concrete and use chicken wire to make the concrete sturdy then treating it with something to stop it cracking and dusting. Just an idea as you can tell i like to think of some strange ones.
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You can't measure SQ, it's literally down to the judge who sits on your car on the day!

SPL has a few different classes, ranging from cars that are "standard" ie, all the seats in situ to open which is where all the bonkers walled vans come in.

Soundproofing will greatly improve the SPL of your car. I did the doors before the comps and amp went in so had a few days driving round with the factory stuff still fitted. The soundproofing meant I could turn it up louder and with less distortion, so I got back-to-back comparison of it's effects.

Chicken wire and concrete are not in my future plans, LOL!
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Chicken wire and concrete are not in my future plans, LOL!
Why because you simply dont think that it will work because in theory this should have amazing results and would probably weigh a lot less than filling the box with sand. Both of which would allow all of the vibrations to come from the speaker and not box that it is contained in. Concrete would be the Ideal container for a speaker but this is not very often practiced due to weight isuues but if you had two boxes you could use the heavier only for competitions. Fcuk being a Rookie competitor be a Rookie Competition winner.
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