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Hello everyone. I would appreciate some help trying to identify a missing part.

The car in question is a RHD 2006 Grande Punto Active 1.2 petrol.

Below the fuel inertia switch there appears to be some wiring that looks like it should be connected to something. The wiring is linked to a loom that runs from the dashboard (driver-side) and continues along the door sill all the way to the rear of the car.

Missing part - Driver-side lower A-pillar.jpg

Above is a photograph. This shows the driver-side lower A-pillar. At the bottom of the photograph, next to the yellow arrow, is a red and black connector. Above that is a black clip that looks like it should be holding the missing part.

Can anyone help me identify this missing part and the purpose it serves? I've tried searching online and referenced the Haynes manual but as I'm unsure what I'm looking for it's proving difficult.

Many thanks.
 
It's not necessarily a missing part.

Manufacturers, including Fiat, produce wiring looms to suit cars with various options. If they manufactured a different loom for every permutation of options, they would have to produce and stock hundreds of different looms.

The empty socket and wiring on your car is likely to be for an option that your car doesn't have.
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Thank you for your replies. Whilst I understand the sentiment I want to be absolutely sure.

Can anyone with a Grande Punto Active confirm whether they have a part attached to this connector?
 
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Eklipze3k said:
If you don't have any error messages, and the car is running fine, then you're not missing anything.
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The car has some electrical gremlins so I'm working through a list of things to check. On stripping the trim I noticed this 'missing' component. I would like to establish for certain whether it is a missing part or not so I can eliminate from my line of inquiry.

Can anyone with a Grande Punto Active confirm whether they have a part attached to this connector?

Alternatively links to the appropriate wiring diagram that clearly itemises the part would also be appreciated.
 
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varesecrazy said:
In all honesty..
You are probably 10 years too late trying to find owners of a 2006 model base spec 199
Basically just diesels and bangers left now..and 2/3 of those are now being sold while they still have a value :eek:
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GPs were manufactured until 2012 and there are plenty still on the road.

No offence to all those that have responded thus far but positive answers welcome only. If you don't know the answer to my original question then no response is necessary.

Now I repeat, can anyone with a Grande Punto confirm whether they have a part attached to this connector?

Alternatively links to the appropriate wiring diagram that clearly itemises the part would also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
You can search for eLearn materials for the wiring diagram on the internet by yourself. However they may be quite generic.


Honestly, this kind of threads are also quite useless. Information value ZERO. You were already answered very kindly by Davren.

If it was three door version, there may be wiring to the rear speakers available there.
 
eeeno said:
You can search for eLearn materials for the wiring diagram on the internet by yourself. However they may be quite generic.


Honestly, this kind of threads are also quite useless. Information value ZERO. You were already answered very kindly by Davren.

If it was three door version, there may be wiring to the rear speakers available there.
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Whilst Davren's answer was appreciated and makes sense, it's not definitive.

I'm investigating electrical gremlins with the wiring that feeds the front doors. This particular wire is part of the same loom and very close to the wiring that feeds the right-hand door. Now, it may be the root cause, it may be a red herring but I won't know for sure until I have definitive confirmation of what usually goes there and the purpose it serves.

I trawled through eLearn (http://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000000/199000000/199003749) and the only thing I could find was this:

Fiat Grande Punto RHD Dashboard Wiring.png

If I'm reading this diagram correctly the part in question appears to be D020(B). Unfortunately the diagram has no legend so I don't know what D020(B) is. Moreover, the diagram doesn't clarify whether this part is trim dependent.

If someone can confirm what the part is, that would be much appreciated.
 
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For what it's worth, I reckon it's probably a red herring in relation to your engine not turning off issue. I would have thought the BCM would flag up an error code if something wasn't connected that should be. Has the car had a replacement ECU/BCM? I could see that causing issues if it wasn't an exact match


But anyway, not sure if it is of any help, but I found these wiring diagrams whilst perusing eLearn. Do you have a 3 or 5 door model?

3 door - http://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000001/199000000/199003759
5 door - http://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000001/199000000/199003769

The interia switch is I050, and D020B is nearby with a label showing a plug. There seems to be a few variations. This one looks a bit like yours, but hard to tell from the picture. Also D030 - Driver's Front Door Coupling.

It might also help to know what that plug looks like, how many pins it has, and the colour of the wires attached to it as the more detailed wiring diagrams list the wire colours which might help.

P.S. Might be worth having a look on the passenger side and seeing if there's a similar connector there (maybe D020A)?
 

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For what it's worth, I reckon it's probably a red herring in relation to your engine not turning off issue. I would have thought the BCM would flag up an error code if something wasn't connected that should be. Has the car had a replacement ECU/BCM? I could see that causing issues if it wasn't an exact match


But anyway, not sure if it is of any help, but I found these wiring diagrams whilst perusing eLearn. Do you have a 3 or 5 door model?

3 door - http://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000001/199000000/199003759
5 door - http://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000001/199000000/199003769

The interia switch is I050, and D020B is nearby with a label showing a plug. There seems to be a few variations. This one looks a bit like yours, but hard to tell from the picture. Also D030 - Driver's Front Door Coupling.

It might also help to know what that plug looks like, how many pins it has, and the colour of the wires attached to it as the more detailed wiring diagrams list the wire colours which might help.

P.S. Might be worth having a look on the passenger side and seeing if there's a similar connector there (maybe D020A)?
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Thank you for the detailed post. This car is a 5-door RHD.

There are no pending or historic faults being reported but there is one logged fault, U1706. Engine Management Light is off.

The passenger side does indeed have D020A connected.

The plug on the driver side is pictured in my initial post. It's fairly small with 2 pins inside.

P.S. That particular diagram you attached is not for the faint hearted!
 
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As kindly requested by Charlie ...

P020: on board radio
P026: dashboard (Blue&Me) microphone
P049: rear center woofer
P070: Interscope amplifier

Definitely trim dependent and NOT related to any door gremlin ...
BTW, what are those gremlins you're investigating ??

BRs, Bernie
 

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