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so in the privacy of my own small yard on this fine day I decided to replace my rear shoes

slacked handbrake inside the car

struggled getting the drums off, but got there in the end, cleaned them up a bit and give them some black paint

starting on the left side, took old shoes off, quite worn, probably the originals

struggled to get adjuster working, to work it you plung the entire rod in, this moves the sleeve and the metal tab pushes the adjuster nut round, well it should - it wasnt happening at first, see this rather poor video of it trying to work

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after this, I found that adjusting the tab with pointly pliers meant it was now working proper

so refitting new shoes, they were too small

the car brake parts eller I bought them off last year confirmed they were right for my car, but they are obviously for a 1.2 petrol, which probably has smaller rear drums

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so, had to put old ones back on

lots of swearing, took place trying to get them back on

drums still wet with paint, they will get put back tomorrow

really annoyed, but hey ho
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Re: rear shoes

Wrong diameter..or just width?
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Wrong diameter..or just width?
Both by look's of the picture?
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Wrong diameter..or just width?
both

drums will be back on tomorrow when paint is dry, and I will have a go at the front pads hopefully with more success
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How is the inner side of the drums ? can you feel the shoes have made their path (groove) in ? If so (which is more likely), I'd recommend to grind the step off before fitting them back, they will be WAY more easy to remove next time ...

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How is the inner side of the drums ? can you feel the shoes have made their path (groove) in ? If so (which is more likely), I'd recommend to grind the step off before fitting them back, they will be WAY more easy to remove next time ...

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there was a bit of a lip, and I did grind it off
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there was a bit of a lip, and I did grind it off
That lip was what made the removal difficult, as the wear will continue the same sh.. will happen next time. Did you just 'flaten' it or grind-off a nice chamfer ? Doesn't matter if the chamfer goes a bit on the shoe path; there is almost no brake effect on the rear wheels anyway, and the shoes will eventually 'sit-in' correctly ...

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That's so annoying. Happens to me as well sometimes. Since discovering the forum I cross-check part numbers with Eper but when the Ebay listing is plain wrong then there is nothing you can do about it.

side question: Is there a way to check if rear shoes need replacement without taking the drum off? My handbrake is working fine but after ~180.000 km I have the feeling they are going to need to be replaced in the near future. (1.3 JTD Punto EVO). Might as well work on the car now I'm restricted to staying home.
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Re: rear shoes

To bernie, yes i ground most of the lip away, i was able to mount the drum on an old mg zr hub mounted backwards in a vice, so i could spin the drum while grinding the lip to get it uniform.

I am going to buy a new set of shoes along with the fitting clips/springs as the existing holding clips were not great
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Quote Originally Posted by levemircento View Post
To bernie, yes i ground most of the lip away, i was able to mount the drum on an old mg zr hub mounted backwards in a vice, so i could spin the drum while grinding the lip to get it uniform.

I am going to buy a new set of shoes along with the fitting clips/springs as the existing holding clips were not great
I do that.. but on the FIAT..

Reverse drum.. hold onto hub with 2 wheel bolts

Flick it over with your hand.. ..to get it running fairly true..

Then I use a Dremel with a grinding cylinder..

Flick drum spinning.. the Dremel then keeps it all rotating nicely
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Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post
I do that.. but on the FIAT..

Reverse drum.. hold onto hub with 2 wheel bolts

Flick it over with your hand.. ..to get it running fairly true..

Then I use a Dremel with a grinding cylinder..

Flick drum spinning.. the Dremel then keeps it all rotating nicely
And another nice trick from Charlie ! I'll use it or sure !!

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