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Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

As the title says, I need a dualogic specialist in West Yorks to have a look at my motor that is currently sat with a transmission fault as a non-runner on my drive. No one that I have called will touch it, Not even Leeds Gearbox Specialist. Any advice would be very gratefully received.
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As the title says, I need a dualogic specialist in West Yorks to have a look at my motor that is currently sat with a transmission fault as a non-runner on my drive. No one that I have called will touch it, Not even Leeds Gearbox Specialist. Any advice would be very gratefully received.
Hi. What is the issue?

The gearbox is probably standard gp

It is the hydraulic actuation that scares them.. this IS servicable to a degree..

When did you last have it checked over for fluid level?

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Never. I have only had it since last February, bought it from a guy who bought it from auction with no service hsitory. The problem m is, no one wants to look at it for me. All previously recommended specialists via Google and this forum are either closed or retired.

The actual issue is that whilst out driving about 6 weeks ago it just suddenly failed to find gear and came up with Transmission Error. After that every time I try and start it, the car starts and dies instantly.

I have an RAC scan results that shows CANBUS and Transmission errors but nothing specific.

I have eliminated that it may be the brake light switch. But I am aware that it could be anything from a bad earth, to an ecu fault, to corroded wiring or something much more sinister. However, I am not mechanically knowledgeable or well equipped to deal it with it at home.
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

You could search for Dualogic in Car Parts on eBay, there are a couple of people who refurb Dualogic Actuators often on there. No idea of whereabouts they are based though.

Meanwhile, 2 questions:
Are there any leaks?
Does the pump start when you open the driver's door?

There are possibilities to at least get a better idea of what's wrong, or maybe even get mobile so you can drive it somewhere.
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Never. I have only had it since last February, bought it from a guy who bought it from auction with no service hsitory. The problem m is, no one wants to look at it for me. All previously recommended specialists via Google and this forum are either closed or retired.

The actual issue is that whilst out driving about 6 weeks ago it just suddenly failed to find gear and came up with Transmission Error. After that every time I try and start it, the car starts and dies instantly.

I have an RAC scan results that shows CANBUS and Transmission errors but nothing specific.

I have eliminated that it may be the brake light switch. But I am aware that it could be anything from a bad earth, to an ecu fault, to corroded wiring or something much more sinister. However, I am not mechanically knowledgeable or well equipped to deal it with it at home.

Hi.
If the engine dies.. its NOT a specific gearbox fault.

The main earth cable from battery neg to engine.gearbox can break down internally.

I would do the trick with an extra cable.
See grande punto section FAQs.

As @irc said the pump should run when drivers door is opened..

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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

You first need to take it to a mechanic equipped with MES or Examiner(mostly found in dealerships) who can correctly diagnose it.

It might just be as simple as loosing communication with the gearbox... and something as a bad ground and proxy alignment would fix the problem.
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

But first, let's see if it's possible to get it mobile easily...
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

@Optikal

Assuming this is the 1242 petrol engine??

Turn the key.. hear the fuel pump whirr.

It is under the back seat.. and should whirr for @10 seconds.. fuel starvation could be simple.

When it stops.. look carefully at the dash.. what symbols : lights come on..?
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

Thanks for the replies lads. Pump primes every time and there are no leaks. Would it help if I posted the RAC OBD readout?
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

Which do you mean:
the gearbox pump (when you open the driver's door) or
the fuel pump (when you turn the ignition on)?
Or both?
Both is good,
only one is a good clue,
neither means a different next step.

And another 2 questions:
Does the dashboard show "N" or a gear number when trying to start?
What position is the gear lever in?

Apologies for the confusion.
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Both pumps are good mate. I popped my missus Fiesta battery onto the Punto and have taken a video of the issue. I also tried the earth trick from the FAQ and got an identical result. The car is in Neutr and shows an N. When it initially broke down it used to read "Transmission Error".

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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

OK, a couple more questions:
With Ignition on but engine off, if you move lever to "R" can you hear the gear being selected?
(If you do, move changer to first, then back to reverse a couple of times. You should hear gears being selected, and after a few shifts the pump should run again)
With the lever in normal Drive position, if you try to start without your foot on the brake, what message do you get?
(Should be "Press brake and retry" or similar. If so, press brake and retry. Did it start, or just do the same as in the video?)

My suspicion (only a guess) is that you have water in your fuse box, or an earth lead problem, but it would be good to rule out as much as easily possible first, and the gearbox inhibit functions are a good place to start. However the video doesn't show strange dashboard behaviour, which I would normally expect with wet fuse box or dodgy earth lead...
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

I will snag her battery back tomorrow after work and try everything you have suggested and work from there. Thanks you for all your help, I can't tell you how much I appreciate this!
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

RAC codes.. yes please.

If the is a U in there we may not need that FORD battery..
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Re: Any Dualogic Specialist in West Yorks

She has taken her car out to visit her Gran today so no diagnostic results until tomorrow unfortunately.

Here is the RAC report:



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