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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

Do try the jumplead earth test too
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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post
Do try the jumplead earth test too
Yep, typical symptom of a battery to body to gearbox broken/roten cable/connector and this has been posted/replied many times ...

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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

Already tried this one I believe guys through the electrical gremlin thread and no changes. Will try directly connecting the starter solenoid to the battery and see if any cranks occur. So basically if it cranks the problem lies within the ground connections somewhere and if it doesnít itís likely a starter motor problem?
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Quote Originally Posted by OliPottage1 View Post
Already tried this one I believe guys through the electrical gremlin thread and no changes.

Will try directly connecting the starter solenoid to the battery and see if any cranks occur. So basically if it cranks the problem lies within the ground connections somewhere and if it doesnít itís likely a starter motor problem?

Hi.
When you turn the key.. do the lights go DIM.. or stay bright?

That will give a clue about the starter

(If the car is still stranded.. you have the option of towstarting it.)

Best to rule out major electrical issues first though
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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

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Hi.

When you turn the key.. do the lights go DIM.. or stay bright?



That will give a clue about the starter



(If the car is still stranded.. you have the option of towstarting it.)



Best to rule out major electrical issues first though

The car is towed and no fairly certain lights do not dim, all light options work fine with no signs of dimming lights. You think this is starter motor buddy?
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Quote Originally Posted by OliPottage1 View Post
The car is towed and no fairly certain lights do not dim, all light options work fine with no signs of dimming lights. You think this is starter motor buddy?
IF the starter was stuck.. or struggling..

The lights should DIM with the effort.

Do the test with the additional earth cable..

Then let us know.
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...Do the test with the additional earth cable...
OP said He did it already ( #18 ) Charlie, before going further and as you said IF the lights doesn't go dim, which would mean the starter motor doesn't get into circuit one should consider also the positive line of the connection: the starter is directly connected to the battery +, this line being broken/loose, the starter wouldn't spin-up !

IF there is no tick when trying to crank with direct connection as I suggested in earlier reply, the launcher is 'kaputt' ...

IF it ticks and start the starter motor, the command circuit is the bad guy.

IF it ticks but nothing more happens AND the + and ground lines are ok, the starter motor is at fault ...

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Thanks mate really appreciate the help!
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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

I meant reconnect a booster cable ( jump lead) .
Try again.. noting what dash lights go on.. then off.


Turn key to activate starter.. see if

1. Starter turns.. or you hear solenoid clicking

2. The oil and battery lights dim.


We are interested to know what you see.

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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

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I meant reconnect a booster cable ( jump lead) .

Try again.. noting what dash lights go on.. then off.





Turn key to activate starter.. see if



1. Starter turns.. or you hear solenoid clicking



2. The oil and battery lights dim.





We are interested to know what you see.



Charlie


Problem is where I broke down is at my partners far away from my home meaning the car isnít at hand. Iíll be going this weekend and will keep you all updated. But from what I can remember, when turning key I could hear a click but certain that was coming from the fuse box not the starter solenoid and I donít think lights would dim.
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Quote Originally Posted by OliPottage1 View Post
Problem is where I broke down is at my partners far away from my home meaning the car isnít at hand. Iíll be going this weekend and will keep you all updated. But from what I can remember, when turning key I could hear a click but certain that was coming from the fuse box not the starter solenoid and I donít think lights would dim.
Hi. As I advised..

Check the basic electrics.. if all sound you should be able to push:tow start the car.

IF it immobilises..and fuel pump does run.

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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

Might be as simple as a fuse, here is all I can find about the starter on a petrol GP, it contains all you need to understand and troubleshoot it ...
If you actually hear the relay T18 clicking (and its contacts are ok), my candidate would be F35 in the distribution box (engine bay).


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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

UPDATE: Just got to my car to fit a new starter motor, and it started without the new part. However it took a few times to start and when it was attempting the engine would start however it would shut off either soon after or when I tried applying the accelerator. Eventually it started fine and had continued to do so however there must still be a problem. With this information does anyone have an idea what the problem could be? Maybe a stuck solenoid or a seized starter motor is what I first thought of but any ideas would be appreciated.
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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

Hi..at least it runs..!!

Ok. At no point have you mentioned the solenoid clicking. Is that ruled out?

Was the car in the same spot.. or had you moved it around?

Cutting out when touching accelerator...
Did it run excellently before last week?

Sounds like a different issue
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Re: Car not starting (battery fine)

1. Do you see the MIL (allong with battery and oil) when turning the key to acc???
2.Use multimeter... check for voltage between ECU (metal case) and battery negative, while somebody is cranking the car.

Any voltage over 0.5v indicates a bad ground.

ECU can still have a bad ground even if engine is cranking.
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