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Exclamation Grande Punto Passenger Window

Hello, since I had recently brought my punto grande it has always had a faulty passenger window, I tried to fix this problem as I brought a new motor and it hasn't done anything, what I find odd is that the window will go down but wont go back up, when I leave the car and come back to it after (e.g) five minutes the window will go back up, the problem is when it's down it doesn't go back up unless I leave the car? ... very odd

One thing is for sure it is not the motor... I will check the cables to the door next time I can, I can only think this is a fuse issue or a broken cable if so how easy is the fix?

Thanks in advanced to anyone who can help
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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

Same behavior from BOTH switches ?
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Same behavior from BOTH switches ?
Yes same problem with both switches
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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

What trim level is your grande, i.e. do you have to keep the button toggled or does the window move to its end by itself (button released) ??

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What trim level is your grande, i.e. do you have to keep the button toggled or does the window move to its end by itself (button released) ??

Cheers, Bernie
Itís a 1.4 dynamic, bassically i can push the button on ethier side so passenger side or drivers side and the window will go down, however when I press for the window to go up it doesnít move at all itís just stuck, so if I turn off the car and come back to it after five minutes or so the press for the window to go up it will then go up? very strange I know just donít know what could cause it
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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

You may have a faulty switch but its more likely a wire in the connection by the door hinge. The broken wire might give you an intermittent fault as it 'touch connects'. This is a fairly common issue, and seems to be usually on the passenger side (RHD version. ).
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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

Okay thanks guys iíll check the wire tomorrow, Iím sure it wouldnít be the switch because both switches allow the window to go down from the drivers side and passenger side, just a shame it doesnít go back up
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Quote Originally Posted by PuntoGrande2006 View Post
... Iím sure it wouldnít be the switch because both switches allow the window to go down ...

I wouldn't be so affirmative ! A broken wire in the hinge would ALSO interfer on the down motion since the engine is two wires driven ...

The signal from the driver's switch goes THRU the passenger switch before getting to the regulator (motor), therefore the passenger's switch would be my favourite candidate, eventhough a failure there should also alter the down motion... Weird indeed !

The other possibility is the pinch control circuit but I can't see WHY it would clear after leaving the car !

You can measure the voltage that goes OUT the passenger's switch to see what happens.

BTW: can you lift it back if you stop at mid travel down ??

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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

As a test..

Sit in passengers seat..

Ign on. Operate all the switches.

Get in n out of pass door..

If it makes ZERO difference.. its the drivers door hinge wiring..!!
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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

3 or 5 doors ?
Automatic or manual lift ? (need to keep button pressed to fully open/close)
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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

Not to sure what you guys mean sorry Iím not that technical with cars, the car is a 5 door - electric front windows, manual back if thatís what you mean Bernie? and yes I keep the button pressed. What would you guys suggest the best idea is to test, Iím currently not near the car but will be later first thing I can check is the wiring from the door is there anything else I could check? thanks for helping guys appreciate it alot
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Quote Originally Posted by PuntoGrande2006 View Post
What would you guys suggest the best idea is to test, Iím currently not near the car but will be later first thing I can check is the wiring from the door is there anything else I could check? thanks for helping guys appreciate it alot

I meant:

Sot in like normal.. operating ign switch and buttons..


BUT..

Dont use drivers door.. sit in front passenger seat..

So you havent moved the drivers door wiring.

If the switches all work fine..

Open passenger door does it still work?

Close pass.door Still ok.?

If so then open drivers door..
Just a bit.. from inside..try switches again.

By drivers wiring is BAD.

So needs drivers door SHUT.

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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

Okay thanks iíll try that next time I am with the car, if the wiring is the problem is there any fix for it?
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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

According to eLearn, the 5 doors has only high trim level, eventhough the rear Windows are manual AND there is some electronic/feedback in the lifting motor…
Can you confirm you HAVE TO keep the button pressed to reach the end position ? With high trim if you toggle the switch >600mSec, the motion should continue even if the button is released. Once we know what system you have, we can build a correct diagnostic procedure …

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Re: Grande Punto Passenger Window

I havenít tried just holding the button in for about a second so it does it by its self, I just hold the button pressed till it closes, I can try holding the button later when Iím with the car
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