Technical Broken gearbox?

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Technical Broken gearbox?

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Hi, So i was driving my grande punto 07' dynamic uphill and then it died on me, I was in 1st gear going up, it stalled and rolled backwards, I released the clutch while the car was still in first gear, i then heard an awful almost like a grinding noise. i went out to inspect and i found two almost ring like and very shiny things, they look almost like bearing but i have no idea where they came from. I got the car towed home but i'm now struggling to figure out where they came from.
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Are they rounded on the outside edge?

How big are they?

I'm guessing gear linkage parts, but I don't know if the GP is rod or cable linkage.
 
Were they this clean and shiny when you found them? Or have you cleaned them up?

They appear to have curved outer faces, which suggests they might be the bearing faces from the inner driveshaft joint. In which case there should be three, not that you can re-use them.
Check the driveshafts where they enter the gearbox. Likely you have one gaiter split and a floppy shaft. New inner joint needed.

Looking at ePER, it appears that the spider bearing is one part, and the outer joint separate. You might get away with just the spider, but if they were clean when you picked them up, likely there's a lot of wear in there. If they've been running without grease for any time, the whole joint is best replaced.

Spider bearing, item 3 in first pic. Also need new gaiter and clips, and ideally new circlip.
Outer joint, item 8 in second pic. There's a circlip on the inner end of its shaft to hold it into the gearbox, but I can't find that listed.

I've just grabbed the parts listing for a 1.2 8v Grande, but even that shows a choice of Delphi or GKN shaft, with different part numbers for the joint, so care is needed.
An example of a joint is here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIRTH-FR...088943?hash=item211324a32f:g:J-EAAOSw42dZCGwK
And the joint housing here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-...ential-Gears-Halfshaft-55182803-/262247173898
But no circlip shown.

Don't just buy those bits though, they may not be the right ones for your vehicle. To determine actual part numbers for your car would need to know full VIN and model, engine and year.
 

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Definitely looks to be the outer races of the bearings on the drive shaft CV joint. Not a good idea to use the searbox like that, if you look underneath at the drive shafts bone side should have a torn gaiter and should be hanging out.
 
Definitely looks to be the outer races of the bearings on the drive shaft CV joint. Not a good idea to use the gearbox like that, if you look underneath at the drive shafts one side should have a torn gaiter and should be hanging out.
 
The diameter is about an inch and a half, the sides are about half an inch. and yes it uses a cable linkage.
 
Were they this clean and shiny when you found them? Or have you cleaned them up?

They appear to have curved outer faces, which suggests they might be the bearing faces from the inner driveshaft joint. In which case there should be three, not that you can re-use them.
Check the driveshafts where they enter the gearbox. Likely you have one gaiter split and a floppy shaft. New inner joint needed.

Looking at ePER, it appears that the spider bearing is one part, and the outer joint separate. You might get away with just the spider, but if they were clean when you picked them up, likely there's a lot of wear in there. If they've been running without grease for any time, the whole joint is best replaced.

Spider bearing, item 3 in first pic. Also need new gaiter and clips, and ideally new circlip.
Outer joint, item 8 in second pic. There's a circlip on the inner end of its shaft to hold it into the gearbox, but I can't find that listed.

I've just grabbed the parts listing for a 1.2 8v Grande, but even that shows a choice of Delphi or GKN shaft, with different part numbers for the joint, so care is needed.

But no circlip shown.

Don't just buy those bits though, they may not be the right ones for your vehicle. To determine actual part numbers for your car would need to know full VIN and model, engine and year.

I cleaned them up, they had a bit of oil when I picked them up, I also noticed some fine metal shavings, they seemed like they fell off from somewhere, they were all uniform and very well cut, I however did not pick them up due to their size. They were all about half an inch long.
 
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